When its 40 million dollars..would you REALLY care

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    how many times do i have to explain this. floyd demanded a test that was never demanded in his previous bouts, he might not be afraid in the beginning but he was surely worried by the comments of his father and especially after him seeing what happened to cotto whom his camp avoided back in 2008.

    floyd is more scared of shane? well probabaly its correct cause it took him a while before actually fighting him and this time was actually forced by the circumstances to take the fight. but shane is just bigger than pacquiao. pac is a more dangerous opponent for floyd cause he is more young, active, dynamic and yes technically better with much better movement and defense than shane. the only thing shane is better than pac is he is bigger and probably a bit stronger. shane is not technically better than pacquiao.

    all i am pointing out is floyd's charade saying that he is out to clean the sports. but you are now pointing out to different subset of topics. now answer me straightly, do you actually believe that floyd is trying to clean the sports with his demand to pac or is floyd just saying it now because he is saving face from a demand he never asked from his previous fights?
     
  2. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Agreed that both are at fault!:good I just feel Manny is more so
     
  3. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Is that all you could come up with?

    Accept the fact that there's no article to be found that suggest Floyd's team to have countered the 24 day offer by Pac's team at the mediation table... and Floyds crew were given a deadline before Arum nailed that coffin.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yo.....that's fine with me homeboy. I know you are siding with Floyd on this. But that don't mean I see you stance on this situation the same way you do. I will say this... you are dilligent in obtaining links, vids or quotes to support your stance but you don't offer any of that dilligence to support Manny. Its not that you CAN'T....it's that you choose not to and that's fine considering you are the one taking the time to do so.

    Bottom line.....I WANT TO SEE THIS FIGHT. ANd I think it will happen. I'm just pissed we are getting Josh vs Manny this weekend and not Floyd vs Manny. And you already know my view on why this is happening. You don't gotta take my POV on this. I'm just sharing my 2 cents.
     
  5. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    maybe the same reason as you have.


    The truth..behind why the fight cancelled.
     
  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    lmfao..pac is awkaward and isn't very technical at all...so to say that he is better "technically" than shane is way off...as for the testing...IT'S CLEAR FLOYD CAME BACK FOR THE PAC FIGHT..

    FIRST FLOYD TAKES A FIGHT WITH PAC'S RIVAL

    THAN FLOYD IGNORES SHANE WHEN SHANE IS TRYING TO FIGHT

    HE TRIES TO MAKE THE PAC FIGHT AND CAN'T ....

    ASKING FOR THE BLOOD TEST DOESN'T PROVE HES "SCARED"...IT SIMPLY IMPLIES THAT HE THINKS MANNY IS ON SOMETHING AND HE WANTS TO BE "SURE"..NOTHING WRONG ABOUT THAT....

    IF MANNY AGREES TO THOSE TESTS THAN THAT LEAVES NO DOUBT IN FLOYDS MIND AS TO WETHER HE WOULD BE CLEAN..THE RANDOMNESS OF THE TEST SHOWS THE STRONG INTEGRITY AND WOULD LEAVE ALMOST 0 WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR EITHER FIGHTER TO BE ON PED'S..

    AGAIN...THE DRUG TEST WAS ASKED FOR FROM DAY 1...IF MANNY AGREES WE HAVE A FIGHT..BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON HE DIDN'T AND WE HAVE NO FIGHT..

    IF FLOYD DIDNT WANNA FIGHT MANNY THAN HE WOULDA MOST DEF STAYED CLEAR OF SHANE BUT HE DIDN'T....HE IS STILL FIGHTING SHANE..

    FURTHERMORE U MAY FEEL PAC IS MORE "DANGEROUS AND TECHNICALLY BETTER" BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE FANS WILL TELL U THAT SHANE IS INFACT MORE DANGEROUS..

    STYLES MAKE FIGHTS....WHILE FLOYD IS ALL WRONG FOR MANNY..SHANE'S STYLE IS WRONG FOR FLOYD....AGAIN...NO WAY IN HELL HE IS SCARED OF MANNY...SCARED OF SHANE?? MAYBE AT ONE POINT..BUT MANNY..HELL NO...IF HE WAS SCARED OF MANNY HE WOULD HAVE NEVER IGNORED SHANE TO TRY AND FIGHT MANNY IN THE FIRST PLACE:hi: DAMN IM GETTIN EM TODAY:nut

    AND AGAIN..."BOTH PARTIES PARTICIPATED IN GOOD FAITH"...IF FLOYD WAS SCARED AND DIDN'T REALLY WANT THE FIGHT OR DIDN'T REALLY TRY AND MAKE THE FIGHT IM SURE THE MEDIATOR WOULD HAVE EXPOSED FLOYD...HE EXPOSED TEAM PACQUIAO FOR LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH...TEAM PAC HAS A VERY INCONSISTENT ARGUMENT AS WAS SHOWN FROM THE MEDIATION AND THE LIES THEY PRESENTED...FLOYD STUCK BY THE SAME STORY THE WHOLE TIME...HMMMMM
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    the joyboys are laughing back then when articles floated that it was arum who abandoned the negotiation. but now that an article surfaced that the 24 days was the last offer and floyd's camp did not bother offering anything in return, it is now clear that pac's camp have been exerting more effort to make the fight. arum was just basically fed-up with floyd's antics in the end.
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    FAIR ENOUGH CHAR:good NICE DEBATING WITH YOU:thumbsup
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No doubt brah....likewise!:good
     
  10. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    MAN....THE MEDIATOR EXPOSED TEAM PAC FOR LYING AFTER THE MEDIATION PROCESS...IF ANYTHING IT'S TEAM PAC THAT HAS THE QUESTION MARKS ALL AROUND THEM..NOT TO MENTION THE CASUAL FAN IS LOSING INTEREST IN MANNY CUZ HE WOULDN'T TAKE THE TEST...

    TEDDY ATLAS SAID IT BEST WHEN HE SAID "THE BLUE COLLAR WORKER DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHY PACQUIAO WONT JUST TAKE THE TESTS"..AGAIN..U PAC FANS ARE IN THE MINORITY ON THIS ONE:deal
     
  11. loginistooshort

    loginistooshort Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't Floyd agree to pay an extra 10million for every pound over the limit. I dont think that's been done before. so all the people who say Pac shouldn't do a test cos it's never been done before are ****ing idiots.
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    looking more awkward doesn't mean you are technically inferior. if you would look into their last fights, pac has been boxing more compared to shane. looking for the better openings, employing a better defense, better footwork. pac is technically underrated for not using the conventional standard of setting up with a jab. he rarely uses it but it doesn't mean he is technically deficient.

    i admit that stylewise, shane has the size to trouble floyd but you can be scared or worried even if you know that you can win this stylewise. pac is relentless and has better stamina than shane. he will be on floyds trail for the whole fight and floyd has to be alert and on his toes more. furthermore, he knows that pac fights not only to win but to inflict hurt unto his opponents. he knows this upon watching the hatton and cotto fight. and floyd is more worried than usual that even if he thinks he can win a decision, he would be in a war and it would not be pretty.

    again, my first point/comment was about floyd trying to clean the sports. do you believe him when he said it? simple answer yes or no?
     
  13. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    a ****** in disguise..!!
    Ask marquez what happpen during weigh in,in his fight with floyd.
    If as simple as honoring what is written in the contract regarding weight limit he can't do,what more cleaning out the sports?
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    did pac failed a drug test in his previous fights? did floyd failed to make the agreed catchweight in his previous fight?
     
  15. gyll

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    That's like asking me if I would trade my health/boxing career for 40 million dollars. Fighters have died in the ring. When you're dealing with someone who has an unfair advantage the possibility of sustaining serious injury or worse becomes heightened. If I'm Floyd, why should I trust Pac? Nothing personal, it's just that I don't know the guy. And you can't expect me to have a ton of confidence in the standard testing procedure when Shane Mosley among others was able to cheat the system.

    The real question is - why walk away from 40 mil when you have nothing to lose? You have a whole country behind you and your legacy has already been cemented. Even if you lose the match, those things will still stay the same. On top of that you're basically guaranteed a rematch and another giant purse that amounts to at least $25 mil.