Let's test Classic ... Predict Paq/Clottey

Pac's work rate and a combination of Pacquiao's movement (which prevents Clottey from getting enough countering opportunities to win the rounds he needs) and Clottey's periods of inactivity gets Pacquiao a UD.

 

Pac decision, 9-3, maybe 8-4. Clottey will be game, but he'll always be the catcher instead of Pacquiao who'll keep pitching straight lefts down the pipe.

 

^^^ another case of underrating pac, He would win by KO

 

But that is why it this is the classic forum section, predictions on future fights go in the General Forum.

But hey if the mods let you this, then kudos to you!

 

Pac by disision say 8-4, Pacman's to quick , hand speed and foot movement.

 

I would be surprised if Clottey is knocked out by Pacman. On cuts who knows. That is always unpredicatable. He took Cotto and Margarito's punch. I say Pacman by UD in a good enough fight where Clottey does not have the firepower make it interesting.

 

Clottey won't be able to get anything going.

Lopsided UD for Pac or corner retirement late rounds. Clottey has a good defence but Pac will land on Clottey with combos whenever Clottey throws, which I imagine will be less and less as the fight goes on. I feel Clottey is tough and educated enough to survive the duration, but you can never count out the horrible effect Pacs ferocity can have on opponents.

Even though Clottey is nothing special, another spectacular KO for Pac would...well, it would throw all kinda stuff up I reckon. Clottey has the kinda package of durability/defence that doesn't mark him out as easily stoppable. He will no doubt outweigh Pac on the night as well.

 

Clottey has a peculiar style with his hands up (palms facing the body) defensive shell. I think Pacquiao will stay close, but not totally inside. IMO Pac will beat him to the punch whe Clottey comes out of his shell. Pac by 10th round TKO!!! Way to versatile.

 

I have analysed this fight so many times.

Pacquiao has fast accurate punches, these shots will penetrate the guard of Clottey who 'waits' to be hit before firing back. Pac will be taking advanatge of this launching in his deadly accurate combos through the openings and springing out of range before the retaliation comes.

Clottey also lacks the footspeed too close Pacquiao down and impose his strength and he lacks the hand speed to effectivly counter punch Pacquiao. I have heard many people predicting Clottey knowing he has speed defiecenies will look to hold and smother but I dont feel Clottey has the foot speed to do this and when he does go to smother Pacquiao will controll the range well with his faster feet and be allowed to land some solid punches.

This lack of footspeed and all around mobility will let Pacquiao dictate the pace and distance. This obviously will favour Pacquiao and IMO we have not seen the versatility from Clottey to implement a change in strategy to combat this. He will look, from about the second round on, like a lost sheep and lacking in iniative. He might even resort to just purely covering up.

Also I think Pacquiao is a fairly unique puncher. IMO there are two types of punchers. You have an explosive type that relies on speed to 'explode' their punches off an opponent to catch them unaware and inflict some serious damage, these are mostly the 'knockout artists'. Then you have a wear you down kind of puncher, that looks to damage you using attrition then grind you to a halt. I beleive Pacquiao combines these two puncing styles and does both well. I feel his explosive power may catch Clottey off guard and coming in and result in a knockdown or out, however I feel his wear you down kind of punching will help soften Clottey then Pacquiao will be able to land his explosive shots and hurt Clottey.

Also Clottey IMO is a mentally flawed fighter. When against a fighter of his equal or better he is at a severe disadvantage. If you look at his losses they have all been close and somewhat controversial and often Clottey is claimed to 'have lost the fight himself'. This is because when faced with a fighter who has a good chance of beating him, Clottey provides a instinctal defence to his defeat. He boxes under his best. He uses this to avoid a 'true' defeat and always have a 'reason' for losing in his mind. Nothing to be ashamed of it is human nature, just it is a serious problem for a top class boxer.

Sorry for the thrown together anaylisis but thats basically an outline of my complete thoughts on the fight a late round stoppage for Pacquiao on an outclassed Clottey.

Whatever the outcome, I doubt Clottey will ever be the same again.

 

so much for the analysis, MP would not only outclassed pacquiao but he would murder him. It is a mismatch because manny is just so good

 

Please contribute something, would be interesting to hear your breakdown rather than 'Pacquiao is simply too good' and critizing others opinions. If not you may as well keep your comments to your self.

 

Wide decision for manny, key is the movement for me, he will be in let off his super fast flurries and then away before clottey can fire back, unless clottey can be more active than he has in any previous fight and can impose his strength on pac he has no chance, as i don't see that happening i think pac will quite easily outwork him

 

I've analyzed it time and time again and I doubt I can say something others haven't pointed out. I believe it will be a 9-3 type decision. Clottey wants to be "unique" and not go out the way other Pac opponents have. He stated this more than once, and I think he'll be a survivor. It may be somewhat interesting for 6 rounds, but Pac will start blowing away once his activity totally dominates Clottey. Clottey will fall into a shall and just try surviving. His chin, defense, and conservatism might allow this. It's possible that he becomes so inactive that the fight gets stopped. He won't be as hurt nor as broken down as Cotto was, though. Clottey will be lucky to win 3-4 rounds.

 

Clottey has to impose his will early by using pressure and a good stiff jab. Keep PAC on his back foot be selective with power shots and look to up his punch output in the second half of the fight.
This fight could get very intersting if Clottey fights a smart fight early.

Manny needs to forget about the Ko stay close to Clottey and just box in angles and use good movement and speed to make it to a UD.

The key for this fight is going to entirely fall on Clotteys jab. If he gets it going Pac could be in deep **** late. If Pac keeps him off balance and uses smart boxing Clottey has little else to offer.