Let's test Classic ... Predict Paq/Clottey

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    To establish the jab on Pacquiao you need to step to your left as you throw it, Clottey has never really demonstrated this kind of iniative or mobility IMO.
     
  2. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    Pacquiao UD.
     
  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No need to breakdown the fight. Pacquiao is just too fast for clottey. Waste of time analyzing a fight wherein pacquiao has all the advantage.
     
  4. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a fight where in MP doesnt need roach to be in his corner. He can use his own personal knowledge and ability to dismantle clottey in any way he wants but only thing for sure is that this would be a KO
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac by UD or possibly late stoppage, but if i have to stick with one ill go with Pac UD.

    116-112 116-113 type decision. I think Clottey will pose some problems for Pac at times but i cant see him winning more rounds, Pacs work rate will be the difference also i believe that he will hurt Clottey at sometime during the fight and that will cause Clottey to fight more conservative.
     
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you are underrating pacquiao bigtime!
     
  7. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    excellent point.

    i have the same bad feeling about this fight that i had about cotto/margarito but not to the same degree. i think that clottey's defense is gonna **** pac off and possibly throw him off his game. i also feel that pac might be treating this fight with the same attitude he showed in the larios fight

    clottey's defense MAY have the same effect that watson's had against nigel benn. pac will pound his fists against clottey's gloves trying to work his way in. pac can be one of the most accurate punchers i've seen since salvador sanchez and when he's on point, he can land precise punches all night long

    i think he may be going in complacent and he will expect an easy nights work, outboxing a crude pressure fighter. when this doesn't happen, it's depends on how pac reacts. if he stays patient and waits for his opportunities he can take a lopsided decision or stop his late. if he doesn't, clottey can counter and make it interesting
     
  8. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Pacquiao's speed and movement are so much for a fighter to overcome. Often times, in order to defeat a much faster opponent, a fighter must establish the jab. I do not believe that Clottey will be able to establish his jab against Pacquiao. In fact, I think he'll fare worse than Cotto did.
     
  9. lefthook31

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    One thing we know is Clottey has a good jab. If Clottey didn't spend his entire training camp sparring quick southpaws I would be shocked.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I got Pac by 8 points in this one
     
  11. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not liking what I have heard from Clottey's camp before this fight. Clottey's most notable advantage is his size, all you have to do is see the two stand next to each other, but Clottey has claimed that he will come in at a low weight in order to keep up with Pacquiao's speed, which is impossible.

    He has also said that he will block Pacquiao's punches and come back with fewer but more meaningful shots and that he will come on strong late. In that case he is going to get outworked, because I can't see Pacquiao running out of gas unless he for some reason has put on too much weight. Clottey himself is suspect late in the fights and has bottled it in a few times mentally. The weight drain takes away from his stamina.

    If and only if Clottey comes in at nearly 170 pounds as he normally does, he might present Pacquiao some problems only due to sheer size. I believe that Cotto and De La Hoya made a huge mistake by trying to match Pacquaio's speed by coming in at a lower weight. You can't outspeed him, you can only try to overwhelm him with physical strength and size. Clottey is not one to impose his size on opponents however, he's mainly a boxer and thus I can't see him having much of a chance against Pacquiao.
     
  12. lefthook31

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    It takes the right kind of calculated pressure. Look at a fighter like Winky Wright who picked his power shots carefully didn't throw a lot of them but kept his pressure going and worked his jab well. The right kind of tactic can offset any speedY fighter especially if he's as strong as Clottey just as Wright did against Mosley.
    Just don't know if Clottey is a smart enough fighter or his trainer has the right plan for him.
     
  13. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Agreed.
     
  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Understood, however there are many who just post in clasic and I'm interested in testing their skills ...
     
  15. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pacquaios getting overrated big time here, a sharp boxer can time him with clean shots, especially with lead rights or jabs and hes there to be countered coming in if you have the defense. Slow brawlers like 3 of his last 4 opponents are his bread and butter. When was the last time he fought someone as defensively sound as Clottey?

    Pacquaio will be countered cleaner than anytime since he fought Marquez and he will find it hard to land his own blows. Pacquaios movement and workrate should give him the edge but it will be a closish fight imo. Also remember this is Pacmans first fight against a WW weighing 147 (Cotto was forced to 145 and DLH was a drained 154lber)

    Even if Clottey deserves it though he isnt getting the decision in a close fight. With the nature of the styles it may well turn out to be close and controversal but I do give Pacman the edge

    Pacquaio 115-113