was hopkins closer to his prime then calzaghe in their fight? i think so...

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  1. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    i am quite tired of everyone saying how old hopkins was in their fight and how calazghe was the younger man.....


    the issue is that calzaghe had ruined hands against both hopkins/jones and this is what forced him to slap to so much, in his prime he use to ko a lot of guys

    yeah he was younger then these guys but he had busted hands
    which i think is a huge deal,


    also well jones was a done deal when he fought calzaghe, hopkins is another story


    is it me or is it hard to tell when hopkins prime actually is/was???

    before calzaghe he beat winky wright and traver...big wins and traver fight was not a hard one for him

    and after calazghe he easily beat kelly pavik....

    now in hopkin's so called prime he struggled with guys like robert allen and echols, and did almost no damage to a guy like keith holmes


    now your telling me the guy who tooled traver and wright was not as good as the guy who struggled with holmes,allen etc????
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    If these things were that generic we could all just go home on this stuff. :lol:

    Confused?

    See the careers of Evander Holyfield, Roberto Duran, Shane Mosley, and many other for reference. Fighters are human. They have good days and bad. They burn hot and cold, particularly at the END of their careers. Hopkins didn't look good in that fight, Calzaghe still somehow looked worse.
     
  3. NoCoolFool?

    NoCoolFool? Active Member Full Member

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    Define "good".
    Styles make fights. Hopkins did not have the output as he did when younger. Also the reason he lost to Taylor. Just too much inactivity. Some opponents can not capitalize on this inactivity. Calzaghe could.

    Did Hopkins struggle against Holmes or Allen? The Holmes fight was pathetic...he definitley did NOT struggle against Holmes. Holmes wanted to last the distance and Hopkin's safety first style allowed him to. But Hopkins was in NO danger of losing at any time that I remember.
    Haven't seen the second Allan fight.
     
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    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    :rofl:lol::rofl:lol::rofl
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree. Everyone ages different & Hopkins has got alot better with age, I mean do you think the Hopkins that Calzaghe beat would have only drawn with Mercado? I dont. This thread will get alot of critics on it because for some reason Hopkins fans seem to have a hard time accepting Calzaghe beat him.
    The picture that has been shown on an earlier post above also show how Hopkins used the head before landing a good shot, not really the best advert.
    Everyone says about how Hopkins neutralized Calzaghe but think of this - Hopkins showed a good workrate in his fight before against Wright and in his fight after against Pavlik and Hopkins is known to come on strong late, yet against Calzaghe he threw much much less and was holding endlessly, looking for time out and faking low blows, not something someone who thinks they are winning does. Where was Hopkins strong finish? So maybe it could be that Calzaghe neutralized Hopkins whilst landing more on Hopkins than anyone ever and throwing over 700 shots and finishing the stronger
     
  7. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    it makes them feel better to say he was past his best (when he evidently was'nt) because he got ***** slapped by a sheep shagger who has'nt had a punch for five years in front of his own people with naz and roach in his corner! calzaghe even butt****ed him for good measure lol since when wad hopkins known for his high output? lmfao! tools.
     
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    DRMULLEN Active Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe was.
     
  9. M.I.G.

    M.I.G. and STILL... Full Member

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    I'm a big Hop fan but I thought he lost that fight. He got the knockdown and it hurt him because he thought he could cruise to a decision win.

    ... Good point, TS. I think Hopkins was pretty close to his best while Calzaghe was far from his. Although he fought smart, he didn't have the power he used to have before developing those hand issues.
     
  10. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    lol. This should be good. :partytime:pop
     
  11. STILLFADED

    STILLFADED Fight Night Legend Full Member

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    I didn't even read your post... dumb thread.
     
  12. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    they will also tell u its all about stamina! yet in his 5 fights prior to calzaghe he went 12 rounds in each of them and in the 2 following jc he again went the distance without hardly breaking a sweat! look at the vanderpool fight! a competitive 12 rounder with someone lacy spanked in 7! was that his prime?
     
  13. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins is old, but obviously doing the PEDs, if Mayweather nuthugging logic is anything to go by.
     
  14. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    where are the hopkins ***boys el cepillo,exposed,dinamita etc? watch em crawl out from under the excons scrotum to chew on the welsh lads nuts! go on **** & moan u ***** degenerates your boy lost his anal virginity and the fight! stay tuned for the impending alt account overload and darryl1914's online man period.
     
  15. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    :lol: Good GIF. Hops even manages to get a good headbut in there after all of Joe's missed slaps. :lol: