Fights over.you guys still think Pac was using

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  1. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    no pre tests, but i'm sure there HAD to be post tests.

    Pac threw about a million shots. Think he was using EPO?

    Really didn't seem to hurt Clottey so the Steroid, HGH thing is outta the question..or is it?:smoke

    Discuss..
     
  2. charlievint

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    Nah:verysad
     
  3. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What he has EPO or steroids won't give you.
     
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    Not being able to stop someone doesn't really prove one thing or another regarding PED use. They're "performance enhancers", not magical drugs that turn you into someone with Julian Jackson-esque power and amazing technical skills.

    My opinion regarding it is still the same. Who knows what goes on in a fighter's training camp? Anyone who's geniunely surprised by any pro athlete using PEDs is simply naive to me.

    Pacquiao being a great fighter doesn't really make me more suspicious of him than any other fighter out there.
     
  5. DobyZhee

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    He definitely gets the best sports nutrition out there. If Pac could sell a book after he retires on what his nutrition and specific workouts, he'd be a millionaire.

    I definitely think and know he's on supplements. Illegal though remains to be seen.

    He COULD have been using EPO with his high work rate. We'll have to wait for the drug tests to come out.
     
  6. konaman

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    Definitely, no one threw lots of punches before the invention of steroids.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    hank armstrong was on EPO before EPO existed

    :smoke
     
  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    This further convinced me.

    His head is even bigger than it was in the Cotto fight. He could barely squeeze it through the ropes.
     
  9. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Give me solid evidence like in Margo's case and i will believe.

    But having passed every Roid test so far by the rules of boxing at the moment its all guess work.
     
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    Dont you have to land clean shots to hurt somebody. he had some nice body shots but i never seen him snap clotteys head back. i saw pacs head snap back several times.
     
  11. divac

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    I actually thought it was a good idea early in the fight for Quartey to wait Pac out.......let him unload a few rounds and then try to get back in the fight once Pac's speed was a little diminished......

    ......usually a smaller fighter punching at a bigger fighter will wear down some and slow down......

    .....and though Clottey was'nt carrying any type of a workrate throughout the fight.....he was applying steady pressue......the type that forced Pacquiao to continue to punch so that Clottey did'nt get any ideas about getting aggressive.

    To me round 11 was an indicator that Pac's cheating......
    Clottey comes out aggressive lands some good shots early on......then Pac who had been busy throughout the fight puncing the elbows, arms and shoulders of a bigger stronger fighter, summons the energy lto throw a tirade of wicked shots in the latter half of the round as if its the first round and the fight just started.


    Clottey was looking for the opportunity, but it never came because Pac's workrate never diminished.

    Pac's shots were not moving the bigger Clottey, and yet, the quickness, speed and energy for Pacquiao never diminished one bit over the long haul of the fight.


    Nothing that happened in this fight would make me think twice that Pac is not juicing, if anything it only further confirmed it.

    Pacquiao has more stamina now than he's ever had in his career.....and thats not natural when you're fighting bigger fighters.
     
  12. Uncle Oden

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    Who the **** is going to hurt anyone that sits in a turtle shell deflecting all blows all night?
     
  13. Gander Tasco

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    :lol: keep smoking that pipe man.
     
  14. Medicine

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    shut up.
     
  15. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can you please tell Divac that.

    I mean that was his way all night and from what i saw Pac did hurt Clottey at one stage and then the round ended.

    But lets be honest Cottey is a beast a huge guy for 147 with a great chin.

    I cant believe people are saying Pac is guilty without any evidence.

    I mean zero.