Would you give Pac credit for beating Clottey?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    post fight thoughts?
     
  2. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My thoughts are exactly the same as they were before the fight started. Pacquiao was going to tee off on Clottey like he was a walking heavy bag.

    The fact people even thought this fight was going to be competitive is hilarious to me.
     
  3. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I'll give Pacquiao credit but not too much cause Clottey for some reason refuse to fight back. I don't think i ever see a fighter shakes his head no when a trainer told him to throw punches. I hate to say it but too me i this fight is fix. No way a fighter like Clottey will fight scared like that. Something is up.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its been that way with him ever since Manny beat JMM twice.:-(
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Josh has never looked that bad......I guess no credit should be given to Manny since Josh was basically just a punching bag as usual.:roll:
     
  6. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    ugh! this is the first excuse ive read! congratulations!
     
  7. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clottey was over-rated. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=9300&cat=boxer

    What has he done in his entire career to warrant the praise he was getting? The guy has been at welterweight for what? 15 years? He has never been anything significant in the division, not once was Clottey ever a force in welterweight or even a legitimate champion.

    He is, and always will be a gatekeeper. Nothing more.

    You're a fool if you thought this fight was going to be even remotely competitive tonight. Another hype job to build up Pacquiao.
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah....Clottey if anything is underrated. He's easily the 3rd best WW in the division. What praise has Josh really gotten? He's never been seen as the best, but only as one of the best. He's been a world champion at WW. And yea.....he's lost his biggest fights to Marg, Cotto and Manny but both Marg and Cotto were very close fights. To call him a gatekeeper by be extremly UNDER Rating Josh and thats unfortunate....not for Manny....b/c he did exceeded expectations....but for josh b/c he really is one of the best WWs out there and would give anyone trouble.....aside from manny it seems.
     
  9. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    He just got shut out by Pacquiao. You actually think he beats Mosley or Mayweather? Please.... LOL at easily 3rd best WW when he already has a loss to Margarito and Cotto as well. Look at his record... the guy has been at 147 for 15 ****ING YEARS AND NEVER WON A TITLE!!! ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME!!?!?!

    You ****ing *******s and all this Pacquiao-mania is ****ing pathetic. Blind leading the blind. Talk about media manipulation and massive group think. Sad.



    I hope Pacquiao gets the ****ing balls to man up and fight Mayweather. It is going to be funny when Mayweather beats everybody's hero.
     
  10. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We already knew that Pacquiao is better than Margarito and Cotto, so what exactly did we learn from the fact that Pacquiao beat him more convincingly? And Clottey IS a punching bag.
     
  11. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Do you not count the IBF title then?
     
  12. charlievint

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    Meant 4th best!:good I don't think he beats Floyd or Shane but he'd do a lot better than he did with Manny against Floyd or Shane.

    He barely lost to Marg with a broken hand.....so with that said he was dominating the early rounds before he injured his hand and Marg took over and won.....Cotto I think he lost but it was close.

    Josh is a very good, solid WW and one that can compete with the best in the divsion. Calm down there Victoria....you seem a bit upset for some reason.
     
  13. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't break his hand against Margarito.
     
  14. charlievint

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    I thought he broke it in the 3rd? I know he injurded it.....let me know.
     
  15. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He injured it in some unspecified way, apparently, in the 4th. He said after the fight that it was not broken. Margarito was fighting on a sprained ankle, an injured shoulder, and he sprained his wrist in the 5th round. And he still threw 1675 punches that fight, a record.

    I take that fight as indicative of Clottey's will in general. Many fighters have fought through the pain of broken or damaged hands. Clottey just quit. He gave up fighting. He's not a born fighter. He doesn't have the will. Against Pacquiao the same was obvious. He showed no interest in risking anything to win.