Floyd vs Baldomir: Floyd throws 458 punches. Clottey threw 399 punches!

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  1. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The difference is when mayweather throws he is usually landing. He has one of the best connect percent ratio in the sport.
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In Floyds case, his workrate is relative to the size of his opponent, as bigger = stronger according to him. Against both DLH & Baldomir, he threw under 500 punches. I think Baldomir threw around 790 punches, that's a lot more punches than Mayweather.

    Both Baldomir & DLH(late in career) doesnt have a high workrate so they were never gonna out throw Floyd 3-1, unless Floyd only threw 200 punches.

    We will find out with Shane Mosley what his mindset is like, regards to throwing punches against big strong dangerous WW's.
     
  3. TommyV

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    Floyd didn't need to up his work-rate. Why throw more punches than he needs to? He got the job done with the minimal of effort. Clottey DID need to up his work-rate because he was getting his arse beaten, and he didn't.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    did he hurt his hand in the marquez and oscar fight too?
     
  5. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marquez only managed to land 12% of his total 583 punches while Mayweather landed 59% of 490 total punches
     
  6. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    floyd threw 493 punches, thats all it took to knockdown and school marquez for 12 rounds....

    Pac threw thousands of punches over 24 rounds, and stuggled life and death both times :rofl
     
  7. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    No, his brittle hands magically went away for both of those fights.
     
  8. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its not the number of punches thrown.

    Its doing what you have to do to win the fight.

    Clottey needed to get off more because he was losing those rounds big.

    How many rounds did Baldomir win?
     
  9. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    I don't know...can't think correctly because of your ****ing avatar.
     
  10. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Were not talking about punch accuracy though, the main issue has been activity. So give credit to Pac for avoiding the most part of 400 punches and out throwing Clottey that bad, because clearly throwing 400 or so punches works for some :deal
     
  11. whoupicking?

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    Why would he need to throw more punches? He was winning the rounds very easily.

    That's the difference between floyd and clottey.

    Clottey was not winning rounds. Therefore his method was in effective and his output should have increased or his game plan should have changed.
     
  12. PBA

    PBA Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What's the relevance of Floyd? It's not just Floyd fans that are criticizing Clottey.

    I'm guessing this thread is more about the interesting fact than anything more. Context is important. When you're losing a fight miserably and still giving a low output when you have energy, then you can be criticized

    Floyd has very high activity and workrate in the ring, it's just a lot of it is based on his opponents punches rather than his. Clottey was just a heavy bag.
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Clottey wasnt gonna win the fight by throwing more, in all likelihood he probably would have gotten knocked out. That was Clottey's style, to not throw many punches but make most punches count....just as its Floyd's style to not throw many punches and make most of the ones throw count.

    That style just wasnt gonna work against an offensive machine like Pac...the style of throwing little but making it count. Who's to say Floyd will be landing at 50%+ on his 400-500punch output? If Floyd is being outlanded or not landing enough, does he have the capability to commit himself to throwing more punches in order to land more? Im not sure he does...that would be putting himself in harms way.
     
  14. whoupicking?

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    But clottey is clearly is no mayweather. And that style clearly does not work for him as time and time again he loses big fights on his low work rate. On the other hand mayweather wins big fights on a similar work rate but more importantly a more effective work rate based on punches thrown and landed in between rounds.

    That being said Pac does deserve credit. But saying pac avoided clottey shots is quite misleading considering clottey was constantly in his shell for 12 rounds.
     
  15. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nonsense. Floyd threw roughly the same number against Judah and Marquez. He's a pretty spare puncher. However he also outlanded those guys, and they only threw one to two-hundred more punches than he did. Not three times as many.

    If you can outland your opponent significantly then you can be a pretty parsimonious puncher. If your opponent is throwing, literally, 3 punches to your every one, and is outlanding you, then you have a problem.