Floyd vs Baldomir: Floyd throws 458 punches. Clottey threw 399 punches!

If you werent to busy looking at frauds nuts you would have noticed that he was fighting a guy that didnt belong at that weight,a guy that would get stopped by any other top welter in the world at the time if you think that version of JMM is as good as the one Pac fought you dont know **** about boxing and you're nothing more than a reality show fan that would rather watch fraud skating around on 24/7 than watching the fights.

 

How do you know this? You're just inventing facts now. The only think we KNOW is that Clottey could not win by continuing to not throw punches. His corner even told him that, explicitly, in between rounds.

The choice was risk getting hit more to take a chance at winning, or resign yourself to losing. He resigned himself to losing.

 

i agree that clottey could have pour it on more but you cannot just do it when the other guy is punching more than 3 punches to your 1 punch. what is the difference actually? clottey is a defensive fighter and so is floyd, the difference is clottey is fighting a beast like pacquiao, floyd was fighting oscar, baldomir and jmm. if oscar tooked some rounds off from floyd, i have no doubt that pac who could pull the trigger more than oscar, could also pull rounds more easily.

 

I, personally, think that he has the capacity to come out of his comfort zone if he needs to. That is based some of on previous performances, where he showed his ability to adapt and fight with some grit.

I could be wrong, though, and we won't know until someone forces that sort of fight on him. Shane could be that guy.

I guarantee you, if Floyd turns in the sort of performance that Clottey did you will hear no excuses for him from me. If he can't take risks when he has to then he's not a truly great boxer.

 

Workrate is dependent on the guy you're fighting. If Clottey had been willing to open up more and make Pac pay for throwing 1200 punches then Pac would not have thrown 1200 punches. I know this because he did not throw 1200 punches in previous fights where the other guys were intent on fighting, not just surviving.

Pacquiao had little to fear as long as he kept throwing, because he knew Clottey wouldn't try to come back, so he kept throwing.

 

The whole point is that when facing a defense first fighter, pacquiao can punch hard for 12 rounds and throw a ton.

All at WW.

 

thats funny considering, I am NOT a fan of floyd, and dont like him as a fighter or a person... And I have said so multiple times already.. But still, *******s claim anyone is a nuthugger if they say somthing positive about floyd

Go back to jerking off with manny's used gloves

 

There's a difference between being a defensive fighter and being a defense only fighter.

Clottey doesn't counterpunch effectively. That requires punching WHILE the other guy is punching. Clottey waits for the other guy to stop and then comes back. You're supposed to make them miss and make them pay. Clottey tries to make them miss <full stop> make them pay.

It doesn't work that way against great fighters.

Like I said, there's a reason Pac threw more punches in this fight than he has in ages. Because NOTHING was coming back as long as he kept punching.

 

Ok I think I understand your position clearer now. I to agree that floyd will also have around the same work rate against pac. However I do believe that it will come down to what the judges will be looking for. I can see many people thinking pac won on work rate while others will say floyd had the effective aggression.

But floyd is a master counter puncher pac wont be able to throw widely at floyd he will have to choose his shots more carefully. I think roach knows this.

 

Clottey and Mayweather generally have the same punch output, only floyd is way more accurate.

 

Another fraud **** gobbler that is embarrassed to admit hes a fan of his.

If you're not his fan then explain why you take your Ellerbe wannabe ass from thread to thread defending the guy?

Just admit that you love the crackhead and move on,everyone already knows that you do.

 

hahahahaah

I just pointed out facts..... Im not defending anyone, just being objective.

Just because i criticize pac dosent mean im a floyd fan hahaha

Are you mad because im criticizing your boyfriend manny??? Tell him its ok, and blow him like a good ***** :rofl:rofl