Abraham knocks people out , takes him 5 rounds to get going but then it's getting rough for his opponents in the ring . Clottey was the same whole 12 rounds , maybe threw 1 or 2 punches more in certain rounds than the other ones .
Froch has fought better opposition; it's not remotely debatable. And BELIEVE ME I hate Froch's guts; I'll be rooting for Abraham against him if/when they fight. The Taylor that fought Abraham was AT BEST equal to the one that fought Froch. He had less in the way of stamina issues, though mainly because he didn't throw anything, but his defence and chin had gone to rat****. Apart from that, Froch has fought a top champion in Pascal, who's gone on to have success at 175, and a very good fighter in Dirrell. Those two are, combined, better than Miranda. Yes they have. Kessler's win over Andrade alone was a better win than Abraham's over Taylor's dead body, and much more dominant. (Just think what Andrade would have done to that version of Taylor - he would have walked him down and royally ****ed him up.) Pavlik's TWO wins over prime or near-prime Taylor and his lopsided demolition of Miranda by far trump Abraham's scraping past Miranda and beating shot-to-**** JT.
Haha, so now Zab Judah (post Baldomir, Mayweather and Cotto) and Liberado Andrade are now better wins than Jermaine Taylor? Keep them coming....
abraham may implement the same strategy, but he usually follows up with a fight ending punch, THATS why abraham is loved. because people know whats coming when he's i the ring.
Of course it's bloody debatable. Pascal won a vacant title, beat Diaconu (best win: Chris Henry) and beat Branco (10 defeats). Dirrell's best win in his career so far is what? Victor Oganov? That is not the stuff of 'not remotely debatable', that's a ridiculous claim.
1) I never said the Judah thing. 2) Yes, Andrade was a better win than Taylor. Who would have won between Andrade and the version of JT that washed up on the sea shore? I'm getting annoyed with your selective hearing and agenda posting.
Both of those guys are talented fighters with a lot of ability. Froch doesn't have the record of Sam Langford, but Abraham's isn't all that either. I've already dealt with JT; Miranda is gradually declining into a delapidated journeyman.
I'd love to see how Abraham deals with someone like Dirrell. As soon as he decides to come out of his shell and throw his customary handful of punches a round, Dirrell will run for the hills. With the way Abraham fights he's almost always walking on the wrong side of a points decision, unless he can get the KO. Eventually he'll meet someone who can see his attacks coming and when he loses - he'll look just as bad as Clottey did last night. Here's how I see his next two super six fights going: Dirrell: Andre will stay at distance and keep landing the 1-2 on Abraham's gloves. It's got all the makings of a boring fight. He'll run a mile as soon as Abram decides to attack. AA might catch him for the KO but I see a points win for Dirrell. Froch: Froch's chin isn't as great as most people make out and Abraham's chances of getting the KO will be much higher here. On the other hand, Abraham is tailor made for Froch in that he'll stand there nice and static. Froch will love to test his power against Abraham's guard and I can see him trying to get those left hooks to the body going as well as his best punch, when he leans to the right and fires in the right uppercut. Both guys have heart but as long as Froch doesn't get KO'd I can see him winning by TKO. Wouldn't be surprised to see the ref telling Abraham to hit back.
You're ******ed. They have completely different styles and strategies. Clottey isn't getting abused for his style, he's getting abused for his strategy: survive. Abraham's strategy is always the same: murder. Don't take a cheap shot at Abraham like that :nono
Raymond Joval KO10 Shannon Taylor One fight later; Arthur Abraham UD12 Shannon Taylor Lujaun Simon vs Bronco McKart's left overs One fight later; Arthur Abraham UD12 Lujaun Simon. Abraham is the most over rated figher on the planet. Who ever is in second place for that distinction has no hope of ever catching up.
Well, I'd favor a tall, rangy guy with very good reflexes, very good technical skills, and a good feeling for tactics to be able to outscore Abraham to a wide decision. Basically someone like the old, early combination punching Sturm before his stupid trainer turned him into a one-punch-at-a-time bore. But Margarito ? Abraham would kill a guy like that. Just wait until he fights Froch, there you can see what he does with a guy like Margarito. Amber Lamps time.
Froch is no Margarito. He doesn't have the chin, work rate or even the technical ability. And, ****, when a point of derision for a fighter being compared to Margo is technical ability, it's a pretty ****ing damning insult.
If only Clottey can knock out people with his style, he won't be criticized this much. AA gets a pass because he can put his opponents on the canvass.