I'm saying it if it hasn't been said already. Clottey was paid to lose this fight.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by HyperUppercut, Mar 14, 2010.


  1. I still haven't seen that floyd-big show ****. But its a good job of you to point that out given my WWE reference.:good Floyd-oscar was boring but far from scripted mu****a. But i'll watch the monday night WWE **** tonight so I won't be as pissed the next time bob arum throws a bull**** event and I am stupid enought to buy it.
     
  2. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can also describe his style as not a poweful puncher who doesn't throw a lot of punches but when he throws his accuracy makes up for it, which was consistent in this fight.

    He is also a great inside fighter but Manny never turned it into an inside fight, he would change angles once he got his own shots off.

    The difference with Winky is he fights behind his guard with his jab extended which does make me think of the way romans fought with the sword out and shield high, but Clottey isn't known for throwing his jab out continously like Winky.

    All of it seems consistent with the fight.
     
  3. Breakdown

    Breakdown Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LoL damn, cant believe what Im reading.. all these people expecting pac to lose just like his any other fights right.. Im guessing Cotto threw the fight down too?? Why not add Hatton to your list..

    Here's my advice to you.. go download adobe and start editing your own fights where pac loses.. that way you can live your life without regrets.

    And why even invlove the whole African race stating theyd pretty much do anything for money? Not very cool.. Im sure youd suck off Pac's left nut for a cool 10k.. yea? yea?
     
  4. you don't know ****. I actually expected pac to win, as I stated that "clottey was gonna get touched the **** up" in neckbreakinaikens thread about clottey. I just didn't expect clottey who is usually a strongminded stalking mu****a to laydown like a ***** and let pac have a 36 minute heavy bag session.

    Here is my advice to you mu****a. watch that fight without the excessive pac dick riding commentating that was going on.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    if going by your conspiracy-theory analysis. two guys that went 12 rounds wthout damage has all more of a reason to be scripted than two guy bringing it on with bloodied nose and puffed lower eyelid. also, floyd-jmm was more of scripted since a welter who used to the weight already cannot even stop a bloated lightweight. and before that, after floyd could not make the weight, oscar and co. has to revised the rules on the spot to make way for floyd. how's that for grade A scripting?
     
  6. One Round

    One Round Hertfordshire's Finest Full Member

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    lol what a raging *****
     
  7. Breakdown

    Breakdown Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you would suck Pac's left nut for a cool 10k right?
     
  8. Breakdown

    Breakdown Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Man, I was expecting a better fight myself and a bit disappointed but to say that Clottey was paid to lose the fight is just absurd. Too me it seems more like he knew himself that he would lose way before the fight even started.
     
  9. Exactly. Because the agreement was made way before the fight mu****a.
     
  10. Would you stop sucking pacs nuts for 10k? I highly doubt it.
     
  11. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here goes what happened for those who can't read between the lines and don't know what they are witnessing. To those who feel it was a set up or fix, It wasn't directly a set up but it was indirectly. Simple math is that people in the shell defense do not beat high punch output fighters (fighters who throw 85+ punches per round). Simple like 1+1=2. Arum and his people knew that so you can say it was a set up in that way. But to the fighters and camps it was fair game and clottey was trying to win as much as he could.



    Clottey's gameplan was to throw when pacman stopped punching round by round. Every round manny takes small breaks and that's when clottey threw combinations. Pac doesn't punch for 3 minutes straight as some believe and would have you believe. When pac was on the offensive (most of the time between the small breaks), Clottey got in the shell and threw 1 punch at a time (straigh right) then got back in the shell, whenever he did counter.



    Clottey couldn't trade with pac because he would have got hit alot. Using this gameplan kept him from getting hit. He knew this and during the fight he knew he wasn't being hit and was landing more clean punches with far less attempts. So I understand why he kept fighting like that. Still he should understand that alot of people can't tell the difference between punches landing and punches being blocked (fans, judges and punchstat operators included). IMO Clottey was expecting those pac to take breaks more frequently down the stretch. Didn't work out like that for him and he dam sure didn't put enough body work in for it to work on someone with pac's stanima.



    Pac's gameplan IMO was to go to clottey's body to make him drop those arms and break the shell down, and also to attack the shell at angles to find the opening. I think manny and roach were shocked to see that manny couldn't landing anything threw the shell even when his lateral movement got manny to the side of clottey. Manny landed some vicious body shots and I feel he had clottey hurt a few times without manny realizing it. Clottey is only open on the side of the body because the massive arms block everything up the middle (elbows). So they went to thier back up plan which was to just throw a bunch of punches.



    Overall that was the least amount of clean punches manny has landed on anyone's face. I have seen many veterans win fights by punch attempts and not landing clean shots but I never thought I would see manny do it. Clottey landed more clean shots than manny in the fight but couldn't deal with the stanima and speed of manny. Clottey had no choice but to fight in that way because when manny gets into his bouncing in and out trading rhythm you can't dance with him at all. You have to step back, you just can't trade when he is in that rhythm because he is INVINCIBLE when he's doing that and clottey figured that out prefight.







    Lastly Somebody needs to change or modify these punchstats. Seperate clean from grazing and partially blocked. I hate seeing some false ass misleading numbers that don't reflect the story of the fight. Manny didn't land 158 shots to clottey's face like the punchstats said. He might have landed 40 and hardly any of those were clean. If manny hit clottey 158 times (LOL), I would expect atleast a little bump on clottey's face. If those punchstats were true it would have shown manny landing easily less than 10% of his punches on clottey. I laugh when i hear this dominant talk also. Nothing was dominant in this fight. 1 guy looks like he got out the shower and one guy looks like he had been in a good fight. Call it what it was. 1 man throwing alot of punch attempts beating another who wouldn't punch enough. Don't call it dominant or an ass kicking because it certainly wasn't
     
  12. Breakdown

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    Hahah still wouldnt give it up.. Your a lost cause

    You still havent answered my question... You came up with a question to my question.. are you ****in ******ed...

    SO my question IS.. WOULD YOU SUCK PAC'S LEFT NUT FOR 10k!?

    It's a simple yes or no. You have a lot of time to think about it.. If your still unsure, take a ****in guess.. its 50/50 right LOL
     
  13. Breakdown

    Breakdown Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is the thing.. But some people just dont get it .. Either they'r playing like a fool or just too stupid really.
     
  14. How would I get a chance to suck on pacs nuts if you won't get off of them mu****a.
     
  15. Breakdown

    Breakdown Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you were looking for a chance..


    ****in Homo LoL