Did Greb ask Tunney to take it easy?

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  1. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tidbit man here,
    Gene wrote 2 books, Arm For Living and A Man Must Fight. I''ve read both several times.
    In re the 4th fight in Cleveland 1924* Gene claims Regis Welch of the Pittsburgh Post had some headline the next day in re "Gene Too Much For Our Boy"
    Gene was spinning a yarn on that believe me!


    *Not the fight in question on this thred.
     
  2. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is all poppycock...Tunney was a merciless fighter...Look at the beating he gave to Georges Carpentier...Any fighter no nmatter how brave in the ring, can have their reputation besmirched, by revisionists and gossip mongers...For a small example how truth later on becomes distorted...In 1943, my father and I saw the Armstrong vs Ray Robinson match at MSG...Young Robinson played with the aging Henry Armstrong, like a cat with a mouse..Everone in the audience sensed that Robinson did not want to hurt his once great idol, Armstrong...Well a couple of years later in boxing chapter interviewing Armstrong, Henry claimed that Ray Robinson was holding Armstrong, so old Henry wouldnt kayo Robinson.a preposturous claim...This is how wrong allegations take hold, fueled years later by rumors....Same with the wrong Greb stories...Dead wrong....
     
  3. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    Thanks for your response. Do you recall Gene saying anything in either book about carrying Greb, or more importantly, Greb asking Tunney to carry him? If you did read it, you probably would've remembered right away. I am pretty sure that the book that Fair was quoting in his article was Arm For Living.
     
  4. Abdullah

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    That's the way it seems to me, Burt. I am just curious if Gene Tunney wrote that in his book. I guess I'll have to buy them and read them, which I would like to do anyway. I am a fan of Tunney, but just can't believe that Greb would ever ask anyone to carry him. I just can't.
     
  5. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hmmm...
     
  6. Abdullah

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    I think it's bullsh*t.
     
  7. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I read the article. Not far into this 1967 article, my bull**** alarm went off...and it kept getting louder as I read on...almost deafened me by the time I got to the end. That damn alarm made it almost seem like I'd been punched in the ears by the ghost of Greb! :nut
     
  8. Abdullah

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    Yeah, my ears are still ringing. :tired
     
  9. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    No offense mate, but you suck Greb's dick an incredible amount. It's an impressive show of fanboy-ism.
     
  10. burt bienstock

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    manbear PIG,Thanks for your intellectual comment...Worthy of Mensa membership...I knew about the greatness of Greb before you were BORN..Furthermore his legacy doesn't need my adulation, his record speaks for itself, just as your language does,mate...
     
  11. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    You don't know anything about him, you just regurgitate other people's knowledge.
     
  12. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My u Scotts ARE whiny and peevish as in the old Lord Mountbatten & Prince Of Wales stereotype. Why don't you leave old Burt alone?
     
  13. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its been a while since I read either book but it rings a very strong bell and I definitely recall Gene claiming this more than once through the years.

    Perhaps the most reliable source was the 3rd man in the ring George A. Barton who was sorta of the high muckadee muck of all things Minnesota boxing in those days (the fight went down in twin cities) Barton, in addition to refereeing did an extensive write up the next day in the Minneapolis Tribune and reported no such exchange between the fighters. Comprehensive proof? Probably not, but we do know for a fact once Gene became the heavyweight champion of the world Harry was licking his chops for a title shot guaranteeing victory.
     
  14. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ManbearPig, No I have not seen Harry Greb, in person,but my father did...And I have never seen Sir Harry Lauder, but I am aware of HIS greatness...Well by your narrow standards, I should not revere Abraham Lincoln, because I only know what other people said about him...Ad Infinitim.....
     
  15. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some youngsters have ahead of them a long, very hard row to hoe, and they often make it even harder than it should ever be. :lol:

    My Dad and Uncle also saw Greb. The way they described him, "The Pittsburgh Windmill" was a very suitable nickname for him! He was no doubt one of the greatest, pound for pound, of all time.