Who is greater? Manny Pacquiao or Roberto Duran?

Sugar Ray Leonard was not a great fighter? Tell me Pernell, what other former Lightweight would have beaten Ray Leonard of '80? I wouldn't have given either guy in your avatar a chance, especially not Julio Cesar Chavez, who I'm a big fan of incidentally. The one's who can't compute the greatness of Duran are those who haven't actually watched his fights as far as I'm concerned. How can you turn a blind eye to the Barkley achievement? It's ignorance.

 

None of them was ATG

 

Paq could not do what leonard did because leonards reach was what made it work you honestly. Overrate pacs execution as pac is not hard to hit leonard had more skills than pac

 

He was many levels above the guys he beat at 135 because he was THAT good. Manny beating Barrera, Morales, and Marquez looks better than what Duran did in your eyes, but honestly Duran is BETTER than all 3 of them. And Duran would beat them as well. So why hold it against Duran for being great.

Manny has being great lately but he's done nothing from 135-147 that Duran wouldn't have done easily.

 

Leonard is easily all-time top 5 WW h2h. Would duran be in the top 10.
I would not even have him in the top 20.

His win over leonard is a fluke. Leonard set the record straight in the rematch

 

Oscar De La Hoya was ****ed at the weight, by your boyfriend's trainer's own admission. Not a great victory in the grand scheme of things. Victories over Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton are more than admirable, however.

Roberto Duran was way above his optimal weight when he fought Benitez, and was pretty badly undersized. I only properly gauged how big Benitez was when I watched there fight on tape. He was a big, strong Light Middleweight. I just don't see how that loss can offset a victory, that's absolutely ridiculous. Duran, if anything, deserves more credit for rebounding from defeat to take a Middleweight who looked like a Light Heavyweight. You play down Barkley's talent, which is understandable, but he was still world champion and held every significant advantage going into the fight in '89.

 

You didn't address my post properly, Asero. What other former Lightweight throughout history would have beaten Ray Leonard of '80?

Keep in mind, I already know the answer.

 

No such thing as a clear cut 15 round fluke.

While we are at it lets call Pac's demolition of Barerra a fluke, Pac's signature win by your own admission Asero.
Did Pac set the record straight later? Maybe but not after Marco had struggled past the unremarkable Rocky Juarez once and was coming of a loss.

See how that works.

 

And Duran is even greater than everyone Manny has fought. If you can Prove Manny would beat the guys who beat Duran I guess Manny is the greater

 

Actuallly Barkley was a 3x champion MW,SM,LH!!! and actually has a case for making it in the HOF one day.

 

Next you are gonna say with the perfect plan he could beat napoles. Withe pefect plan any fighter could beat anybody. Resume wise pac has not beat any fighter in his prime. Roach cherry picks pacs opponents

 

Manny Pacquiao fought two "greats" in my judgement. Marco Antonio Barrera in 2003, and Erik Morales in 2005. He was 1-1.

Ricky Hatton was a good titleholder, and that's the extent to his greatness, and Miguel Cotto was a top flight Welterweight for his own time but never established himself as a great for all times. Juan Manuel Marquez doesn't have a signature win, and was fighting bad competition as a Featherweight. I still think Marquez beat Pacquiao in both of their aforementioned fights, though. Oscar De La Hoya was past prime and physically inept on fight night. Don't take my word for it, there's plenty of interviews on youtube with Manny Pacquiao's trainer, best friend, father-like figure saying the exact same things.

So, as things stand, Roberto Duran fought and beat one all time great and beat him at the peak of his powers above his best weight. Manny Pacquiao faced two, even if I believe Erik to have been past prime even by 2005, and went 1-1. He badly beat Marco at 126lbs, and then was outboxed by Morales at 130lbs.

Hmmmm....

 

:goodYey all those greats that Duran lost to would have beat Manny. Do any of these *******s actually believe Manny would have fought Hagler on almost even terms?