Better resume: Monzon or Hagler

It's hard for me.

I think Hagler has the more identifiable names, Monzons reign encompassed more defences and some very good fighters himself. Both of them have their best wins against naturally smaller guys (unless I'm having a massive brain freeze)

I think people that rank Monzon ten spots or so higher than Hagler are a bit unjustified, but maybe I'm missing something?

 

It's close.The first Benvenuti fight and the two against Valdez swing things Monzon's way i'd say.

Monzon's opposition tended to be more well-rounded and technically able for the most part, whereas hagler fought a lot of brutal punchers and beastly, awkward types.

 

Monzon fought a lot of obscure fighters with impressive records, records that actually didn't have too much fluff in them at times for fighters that didn't travel out of their backyards too much.

Jorge Jose Fernandez is a good example.

Had a record of 109-6-1 the first time Monzon met him in 66', prior to his championship days.

Close fight, Monzon beat him twice over the course of 24 rounds.

Now Fernandez was good enough to take Emile Griffith to a SD. Fernandez also lost a controversial TKO to Griffith when he was unable to continue following a testicle destroying low blow. Obviously not a **** poor random Argentinian fighter with a record padded with other Argentinian cab drivers. :good

Point is that no ones going to bring up Monzon's multiple wins over the guy when talking about the quality opposition he fought, even though I'd be willing to bet he was on par with the likes of a Scypion or even a fighter with a similar resume consisting of fights that mostly took place in his background in Obelmejias.

 

Why not bring him up, he was an excellent fighter, albeit past his best and over his best weight when Monzon beat him.

I thought those fights were quite well known in the Monzon canon.

 

Benvenuti, Griffith, Briscoe and Valdez top anyone Hagler fought, and consider the fight that Briscoe gave Hagler..a few years AFTER Monzon beat him. Take Hagler's most fromidable name, Thomas Hearns..Briscoe and especially Valdez would have ko'ed him, IMO.

 

Good post.

 

:deal

I don't think it's that close. Hagler is a fan favourite and has the more recognable names on his resume. But not the better ones. Actually, I don't think Hagler's resume is much better, if at all, than Hopkins'.

 

Well, thats certainly not the only example of Monzon having a semi-obscure scalp on his scalp.

 

Hagler may edge the pre-title career, but as champs it goes to Monzon.

Monzon overall takes it.

Hagler fought a lot of contenders who gave up any game plan and fought it out with him (Minter and Hearns especailly). The only one who executed a game plan was Duran which is why Hagler struggled.

Marvin wanted his opponents to come to him and as champ they all did except for Duran and Leonard.

Great fighters.

 

As has already been said,Hagler had the bigger,more famous names,but Monzon's resume was tougher over a long period of time.

 

Sorry if this will be seen as hijacking (hopefully it's just another diversion ) but uve heard it said before (can't recall who by)that Hagler had the more proven chin:just down to the fact Hagler fought more punchers and was never (legitimately) floored, or something else in that. Only time I've seen Monzon dropped is the 2nd Valdez fight and it could hardly be described as having floored him. Thoughts? Anyone with any info?