Top This Resume... Duran, Haggler, Hearns, Benitez

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  1. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with you.

    The only one can top SRL Resume is Pac right Now. MAB, EM, & JMM can be compared to Hearns, Hagler & Duran P4P. If this little guys fought at Welterweight you could Place these guys beside those ATGs. With a lot more Great fights on the line for Pac, JMM rematch, Guzman/Soto, Diaz & Katsidis. I believe Pac can top off that resume. That's without my dream fight with Hatton & PBF.

    But what Pac was ahead of SRL is the quality of wins against the best of the best in & around their weight Class. Pac beating MAB is comparable to SRL beating Benitez or Hearns. Pac's trilogy with Morales can be compared to SRL-Duran trilogy only Pac coming as the Smaller Guy & his wins are more impressive. JMM can be compared to Hagler, both the avoided. Pac top SRL again coz Pac was robbed by the judge & Pac's willing to take the rematch. While SRL was Gifted by decision & wait for so long before he fights Hagler. Pac takes JMM just after MAB & he's willing for a rematch but instead take Morales right away. SRL can't top Pac in that department, Taking all of the best in that short time Period.
     
  2. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You lie like a rug PacD. Pacquiao was the larger man in 2 of the Morales fights.

    Pacquiao ONLY beat MAB and Morales. Both of which are rated at the tail end of the top 100 fighters ever. Duran and Hagler are top 20, while Hearns is top 50 at least. Pacquiao has never fought a top 20 fighter.

    Do you know WHY SRL waited so long to fight Hagler? He was retired because of a detached retina. Stop comparing Pacquiao where he doesn't belong. MAB and Morales (Morales past his prime) are not comparable to his win...much less better.
     
  3. PacDbest

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    Pac was a former 112 & 122 lbs fighter & moved up to fight MAB & EM at 126-130. Duran was a former 135 fighter move-up to face 147 lbs SRL. You got what I'm saying???

    HOw long did MAB & EM dominated their division Before They were taken out by Pac??? Now Compare that to Hearns & Benitez Reigh before SRL detroned them. Hearns & Duran added more quality wins after their loss to SRL coz SRL retired for a while with his injury. Look at MAB after Pac beat him the 1st time, He got a Good run while he ducks pac for a while. Morales taking Pac Back to Back, Big mistake. Imagine SRL-Hearns Back to back within 2 yrs??. One of them retires early & Permanently for sure.

    I know that SRL has injury but does it take that long to Heal??? Why do you think he did make it back in Boxing after years of retirement??? I think he waits for Hagler to get old & worn out before he makes his mind to fight Hagler. Then He barely win the fight or was Gifted??? Depends on who you ask. Pac don't have that Gifted win in his resume.
     
  4. Jbuz

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    Oh my... now Pac is up with SRL? Geez.
     
  5. bill poster

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    Mike Mcallum should be up there with Leonard and Hagler but all the top guys apart from Toney, Jackson and Curry were too scared to fight him(RJJ beat an old man). Shame as I think he would have beaten Leonard and Duran and if he had replaced Mugabi in '86 it would have been too much for Hagler. Hearns couldnt deal with Mike in sparring either
     
  6. PacDbest

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    SRL, Hagler & Hearns are only rated Higher coz they are Americans & Fights in the higher weight class than Pac, MAB & EM. SRL only Has Benitez in his resume before he fights Duran. Hearns just Got Cuevas before his loss to SRL, They're just Riding on Duran's Legendary Reign at 135. SRL & Hearns just beat an Old & smaller Duran.

    Pac is the Duran of this era. The one who moved up to seek Challenge. Only Difference?? Duran has some failure with SRL, Hearns & Hagler. While Pac becomes successful with MAB, EM & will follow up by JMM soon. And many more after that.
     
  7. Jbuz

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    You are an imbecile. Roberto Duran is one of the greatest fighters in history, top 5 for sure. He was the best lightweight in history - the deepest division in history. Pacquiao is nowhere near him. In case you forgot, Duran was not from America, much like Pac. Duran is rated higher because he was MUCH better, and accomplished ALOT more.

    Thomas Hearns was one of the best welterweights ever, as was Benitez, and Hagler was a top 2 middleweight. Morales and Barrera are borderline top 15 featherweights, JMM is a lot lower.. and Pac didn't even beat him!

    Have you even seen these guys on film? They are a class above Pac, EM and Barrera. Remember, Morales is one of my favourite fighters... if anything, I would be supporting him. But I'm sane, and objective, and he is nowhere near the likes of Duran.
     
  8. PacDbest

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    I recognized Duran as the best LIghtweight of all time & Hearns & SRL are just riding on that.

    Hearns is not the best at welter. He was KOd by SRL remember??? KOed by Hagler, Koed by Barkley. Nobody Koed Pac yet in the elite competiton.

    I watched them all live on TV & watched them again nowadays in youtube & Tape all their fights courtesy of HBO & Versus. They're all impressive & so as Pacquiao of today.
     
  9. bill poster

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    Wrong, only one of those fights was at welter. If Hearns had chose to stay at light middleweight he would have dominated for yrs. The Hagler fight at middle took a lot out of Hearns but he still became a multi weight champ.
    PS Hearns came in too light against Leonard by overtraining and was winning the fight by miles until tiring. If the fight was a 12 rd Hearns would have won. Everyone knows he beat Leonard in the rematch (at super middle?)
     
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    ^

    I love watching both Sugar Rays. Beautiful fighters to watch, Robinson in particular. Absolutely magical.
     
  11. PacDbest

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    I believe Hearns wins the 2nd fight also & SRL partly agreed with it. That makes SRL a slightly overrated. Pac, MAB, EM & even JMM are all Multi-weight Champs also. BUt those 3 Mexicans all tasted Canvas against Pac, Pac was never been down on all his fight with those 3 top fighters. Hearns was down with SRL & Hagler. SRL KD by Hearns, Duran KOd by Hearns & Hagler. Nobody KD & KO Hagler. Pac KD everybody & will KO JMM Next. For me Pac is Greater coz he Dominated every Great fighter he's fought(I already include Pac's Future KO of JMM).
     
  12. Jbuz

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    And that is why nobody pays attention to you.
     
  13. brownshell

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    Tough to top, but Ali fought Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Norton, Shavers, Quarry, Patterson etc...

    Tito fought Oscar, Whitaker, Wright, Hopkins, Camacho, Vargas when he good etc...

    Duran fought Leonard, Hearns, Benitez, Hagler, Barkley, etc....
     
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    I became a huge fan during the 1976 Olympics in Montreal....those were the days!:happy
     
  15. Azania

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    The guy was an *******....as fighters go.But he pretty much accomplished some great things in his short carreer....Those 4 ATG scalps on his ledger go a long way...regardless of the circumstances...That mofo could box...like him or not.

    The only minus in my book...he avoided the rematch with Tommy when it mattered...after the 1st fight.That IMO,would have brought his legacy alongside SRRs,Grebs,Gavilans etc and the rest of them...As it is....with his short carrer an' all...he falls short.Mos def Top10 of all time...Leonard could fight...box or slug...great power and of course,the machismo..the style.

    Love him or hate him...For a while there,Sugar Ray had us all...