Could Tunney survived after 10 second count

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by burt bienstock, Mar 15, 2010.


  1. Lobotomy

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    I don't think the Long Count made any difference in the outcome. Where things would have been different with Toledo Jack is with what happened after he caught Gene with that initial huge hook as Tunney ricocheted off the ropes. The following right-left-right all barely graze Gene's head as he drops to evade further punishment. A peak Dempsey would have landed all three of those punches flush.

    Jack had a real "killer instinct." That's why he attempted to wait over Tunney. He knew Gene would beat the ten count. When he dropped Firpo for the last time, he actually did retreat to the farthest corner. If all his follow up punches after that counter right in mid ring had landed with total accuracy, he probably would have walked well away with confidence that Tunney wasn't going to get up in time to beat the count.
     
  2. skidd1

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    Tunney was a great "thinking" fighter.His head looked clear to me.I will go with his assesment of the fight as a "who knows" if the count was right.
    Tunney to beat Jack though at that time
     
  3. Abdullah

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    That's very interesting, Burt. Myself, I became hooked on boxing at a young age and a lot of that had to do with Mike Tyson. When I was about 4 years old, my parents bought us a video game titled "Mike Tyson's Punchout". I liked the game and loved Mike Tyson, even though I don't recall seeing any of his fights at that time. I remember always asking my parents about Mike Tyson as a youngster. I remember seeing the MAD TV magazine cover of him and Buster Douglas around the time that Mike lost to Buster.

    The first boxing match that I recall watching was Leonard vs. Hearns II, on a little black and white television in my parent's room. I don't think it was live, but probably pretty recent at the time. My dad fell asleep, but I watched the whole thing. I always had a love for boxing. It just came natural to me. Never football or any other sport, just boxing. I tried watching other sports, baseball, basketball, etc., but could never find even a small percentage of the love that I have for boxing. No love at all would be more accurate. My brothers also had some boxing gloves and I remember having an interest in them. Always wanting to put them on and play boxing with my brothers on the trampoline.

    Well, that's the story of my love for the sweet science as a little boy. It is nice to share these stories with one another. Thanks, Burt.
     
  4. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good story!!! :good
     
  5. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My love of boxing started with listening to my Dad and Uncle talking about the first Schmeling against Sharkey fight. Schmeling won that fight, and the heavyweight crown, while on the floor holding his groin from a low blow. My Dad and Uncle didn't like that outcome very much! :D
     
  6. Abdullah

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    Hey thank you, djanders. Your story is nice too. So your pops and uncle were Sharkey fans I take it?
     
  7. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When Sharkey was fighting against Schmeling they were Sharkey fans. When Sharkey fought Dempsey, I understand they were rooting for Dempsey. :D
     
  8. Abdullah

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    Oh of course. Had I been there, I would have been on the same boat. :good
     
  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its very hard to say sometimes one extra punch from a puncher can end a fight. It was quite a combination that put Tunney down in the 1st place and Gene went down hard. He got up very nimble and retreated well but a few seconds earlier, Who knows. Sometimes a few seconds to clear your head makes a big difference in a fight, ask Angelo Dundee