Is Pacquiao a different fighter since Marquez?

In a way, yes Marquez is a whole different kettle of fish and class to any of his opponents afterward, but Pac's been improving for years. I saw vast improvement in his technical ability between the first and second Marquez fight, actually.

 

Yes he is a better cherry picker

 

in my opinion he's a better fighter, but it's hard to tell by how much due to marquez being a counter puncher, and the guys pacquiao is looking good against are come forward fighters, and pacquiao just doesn't have problems with them sort of boxers. pacquiao has trouble with counter punchers like mayweather.

 

Pacquiao was amazing in the Marquez fight. Marquez was amazing too. The guys Pacquiao has fought at the higher weights aren't on Marquez' level who on his best night could give any featherweight and super featherweight in history a run for his money and a possible L.

Also, people seem to think Pacquiao was a little sluggish from putting on 16lbs between the weigh-in and the fight. I dunno about that. Maybe a little but IMO not significantly. His speed is definately more of an advantage against these bigger guys than against a guy like Marquez who when in shape is also very fast himself and has great power to combine with his speed.

Also, Marquez' style is nightmarish for Pacquiao. Counterpunchers always do better the 2nd time around. Also, he has fluid combinations and a terrific right hand. If they were of equal ability, Marquez would win handily almost every time because of the style advantage that he holds.

 

bigger and stronger?

 

He's not the pure action, pressure fighter he once was but overall he's benefited from the changes that have been made.

 

yes he picked all the losers as DLH, Hatton and Cotto and the undersized Clottey

... probably he should target Baldo and Judah instead

 

Not to the extent that many are making out, if at all, really. He looked the exact same against Cotto as he did in his early Featherweight days. He's added a few new tools and a more refined, technically aware approach (which only gets made apparent against certain styles, such as the more stand-up, come-forward type), but he's still lacking in some key areas, namely the ability to cut off the ring. Marquez was just a better fighter and a different matchup than anyone he's faced since making the jump.

What makes Pacquiao remarkable is how he's managed to keep his physical attributes as he's moved through the weights, albeit against inferior opponents that he seems to get more credit for based on their size. I don't really buy into the whole "he's vastly improved technically" theory. Against a good enough fighter and a versatile enough stylist, he'd encounter the same problems at any weight, which has been shown everywhere but the higher weights where his opponents have been tailor-made or generally sub-par.

Floyd should be able to expose his flaws, even if Pacquiao's own attributes make for a very difficult fight. A great fighter is Pac, but people need to learn to take this stuff at face value. The whole "he's won title in 7 weight classes" or "he's a former Flyweight titlist dominating the best Welterweights" nonsense really skews things.

 

Another statement that kinda skews things in Pacquiao's favor. Marquez was a very good fighter, probably the best Pac's faced at the time he faced them, but he falls well short of the all time elites to have fought in the Feather/Super Feather classes.

 

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that's my view of it. And it does make things look better for Pac but that's not why I see it that way. Although Marquez does fall short of the all-time elites that have fought at those weights, I still think that on his best day he could give the best of them a run for their money and a possible L.

 

Well, we have very different views. I don't see him as too much better than someone like Antonio Esparragoza. He looks a lot better against certain kinds of fighters than others, and he's not the most versatile guy around. People seem to confuse his textbook offensive punching style with versatility and ring acumen.

 

another statement that skews things against Pacquiao. Marquez has more than "textbook offensive versatility" he is also extremely adaptable defensively, he has great reflexes, alot of ring intelligence, a solid chin, great recuperative ability, and alot of poise.