When was Boxing at its Peak? I propose that it is NOW.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by slantone, Mar 17, 2010.


  1. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    I was rethinking about how, a few years ago, I pined for an era when Boxing was the premier sport. When it was covered in all the major papers, when norman mailer would write on fighters. I used to be the only boxing fan amongst my friends- then Oscar retired and I thought- here it goes-

    - Now, it seems boxing has seen a revival- among the notable things about today are:
    +we have two fighters who are arguably in the top 20 all time,
    +we have fights that sell out stadiums,
    +we have international stars from all corners of the globe, Asia and Africa- previously underrepresented demographics.
    +boxing could be more global now- perhaps less dominance in America though and ll the old powers are doing well, USA, UK, PR, Mexico, etc.
    + Boxing now has more regular documentaries than before, e.g 24/7
    + boxings historically less glamourous divisions are now given attention, e.g. Super Middleweight- the super six tournament, fight camp 360. and also especially lighter divisions.
    + Fight sports are making a comeback in general- with UFC- and that has helped boxing.
    + we have more promotional parties with power- while this may hurt the sport in some ways- it also has theoretically allowed more fights , more represented fighters, more promotion, more competition, and better product. e,g Golden Boy.
    + The Internet. The internet has allowed more fans to get together- to build a community - such as this one- and allowed the sport to thrive- perhaps not on tv or free to air- but in a strong, dedicated niche following. this has strengthened the core following i think- and allowed casual fans to quickly catch on. This relates to globalisation in general.
    + The two top earners in Boxing are amongst the very highest earners in Sport altogether. Should Pac and Floyd fight this year- They could easily rank 1 and 2 as the highest earners in Sport from sporting salary , excluding endorsements.

    With these factors, I present to you, that boxing has never been stronger. Its revival has been rapid and amazing. It has risen from the ashes quickly - and thanks to two little guys- been as strong as it ever has. Perhaps there isnt a heavyweight to capture the awe of the world as there has in Ali and Tyson days, and perhaps America no longer focuses on boxig as it once did, BUT there is a more even interest in ALL the divisions, all over the world.
    Now casual fans KNOW about Pacquiao- maybe they dont box or know why he s great- but now I go to the pub- and the place is packed for a PPV. Good times .

    Which era was the strongest in your view- and why?
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    No.
    Though in 2007 it was dominating the headlines.

    If Pacquaio - Mayweather had a trilogy it would dominate headlines for the next two years.
     
  3. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    of course my argument is flawed- and I m playing the side just to open discussion. i KNOW other eras were more 'glorious' for boxing. But i think a strong argument can be made for today- and those are my points. I d like to heard your opinions.
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    There's so many factors that would come into play. One could make a case for an era since Ali. Well except the Holmes era.
     
  5. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    I think an Era can be defined by who is THE p4p or biggest name at that time- and how big they are

    2010- PACQUIAO
    2000- OSCAR
    1990- TYSON
    1980- SUGAR RAY LEONARD
    1970- ALI
    1960- PATTERSON
    1950- MARCIANO
    1940- SUGAR RAY ROBINSON
    1930- JOE LOUIS
    1920- DEMPSEY

    I think that by Pacquiao- we have certainly the smallest global star in boxing we have had- and also - arguably the first international , non American - superstar in boxing we have had- and that by this- we have the sport at greater international exposure than ever before.
     
  6. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody knows who the heavyweight champ is. everyone knows who Brock Lesnar is...nuff said.
     
  7. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what happens if PBF shuts him down easily? It is PBF's fault for not taking the fights that should happen or else he would be considered the best right now. If and when they fight and PBF just shuts him down easily, you will have posters discredit all of Pac's wins at 147 and including Hatton. I am just a firm believer that PBF will not lose to Pac. There is a better chance that Mosley could beat PBF then Pac. We will see soon enough.
     
  8. guru059

    guru059 TV Packager Full Member

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    if you can't even get on network TV, that says something.
     
  9. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Today can't compare with the Hagler, Hearns and Leonard era, or the Ali, Frazier Foreman, Norton era.


    I mean c'mon, they're not even close.
     
  10. Watson2005

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    without a doubt when Ali fought Frazier in thriller in manilla!

    Ali's huge personality and charisma acted as a magnet for boxing. Ordinary people who wernt ordinarily boxing fans began to watch the sport. He made boxing a lovable panto. A goody and a baddy - and always gettin the audience on his side.

    He brang politics and religion in to boxing. He made matches more than just a fight against his opponent but a fight against oppression and for equality as cheesy as that sounds. look at the shows ali ventured on to, (Parkinson about 4 times!)

    Main reason i say this is that my own mum still declares that Ali is the greatest! lol
     
  11. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    I think there are two seperate questions that are being raised here

    when was boxing BIGGEST?

    when was boxing BEST?

    im not saying boxers of today are better than before- far from it. im debating that Boxing now is BIGGER than before.

    another way to think of it- If sugar ray, hagler, hearns and Duran fought today- would they be bigger stars than when they were in their era. My argument is that yes , they would- because boxing is bigger internationally now than it was now, that media is greater, and that boxing is now more popular (globally) than it has been.
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To know the answer to your question all you have to do is look at salaries and endorsements. It is obvious that boxing was at its peak, relative to other sports, somewhere in the 60's/70's/maybe early 80's.

    In came cable and cleaned boxing's clock. The blessing and curse of PPV. Boxers on average are paid peanuts.
     
  13. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I would say anywhere between the 50's through the late 70's. Sorry I can't vote but this is my input:D
     
  14. Watson2005

    Watson2005 Active Member Full Member

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    Na i still think more people care an see boxing in previous eras than they do now.

    Especially in Ali-Fraziers time.
     
  15. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    Rumble in the Jungle.