What is everyones opinion on argueably Scotlands top Promotor Tommy Gilmour? Do you think young scottish pros should go with Tommy and fight in Scotland or is it better for there carears to go with a bigger promotor eg. Warren and fight on bigger show but maybe not getting as much attention. Personally i dont rate Gilmour, I feel he can develop fighters to british level but struggles to get them beyond this. Kevin Anderson for me is a prime example, Kevin Anderson was the british and commenwealth champion looking to be heading towards European title but within a year he had lost both his title and never fought again. Im not 100% sure why Anderson gave it up but ive heard that it was because he didnt want to fight for the fraction of the purse that he was getting as champion, surely a decent promotor would be able to convince his fighter that he could get him the big fights again. A more recent example would be Paul Appleby, I felt that gilmour should have got the fight over here to give Paul a better chance as i feel he got caught up in the atmosphere. I know that he got good money for fighting over there but that shouldnt be the main objective.
I think he has done a lot for the sport here in Scotland but I have my reservations about him at times. Due to my income I can't afford to go to dinner shows so I've never been to a St Andrew's show. Whilst I'm sure it's a good night out I hate the fact that I miss the majority of bouts in Scotland beacause of this (taking into consideation that most of Morrison's fights are on dinner shows too) I also don't like the way he tries to convince people that his boxers deserve title shots. His argument usually seems to be "He's had a certain number of fights and therefore deserves a British title shot," even if they've never fought a decent opponent. As for the man himself i find him nice enough to talk to and you can get a good laugh out of him. At the area council agm's he normally talks more than anyone and makes them drag on for ages, but at least he cares enough to be there and contribute. I wonder if Craig Stephen will comment on this thread
The lack of Non-dinner show is also a problem for me as i am a student and have limited income at the moment. Although this may not be entirely Tommys fault because i dont know if there is a market for boxing in scotland and so that might be the only way he can make money. I used to go to the shows when they were on at Kircaldy Ice rink and felt they were always good value for money and enjoyed them all.
Does he promote any fights in an arena or are all his fights in this dinner club?I had heard at one point he co-promoted with Barry Hearn.
He does do a lot with Barry Hearn, has his hands in Prizefighter and all Matchroom shows down here that involve any socttish fighters. On a personal note he annoys me, probably a decent fella just has somethin about him on TV that makes me dislike him, also a lot of away fighters have been shafted on his St Andrews dinner shows.
He does the odd non-dinner shows the last one was at the Bellahouston centre in January. Yes he used to co-promote with Hearn for the Shows at Kirkcaldy Ice Rink which were on SKY, dont know if they still work together.
What do you expect me to say, Greg? I hope that you tell him that next time that you see him There is no way that I can comment on this without bias, I work for the guy. As I said on another thread about Scott Harrison, you can only speak as you find. I haven't got a clue what Tommy's deals are with his boxers as, quite frankly, it's none of my business but he's always been good with me. He is loyal to those who are loyal to him. One thing that I do know is that shows are hugely expensive to put on, from the ambulance, doctors, venue, officials, printing, administration etc..... and that's before you even think of paying the boxers. If you think that I'm lying, ask Willie Limond, he's done it himself. Tommy Gilmour puts on 8 boxing shows per season at the St. Andrews Sporting Club and I'm sure that some of them will cost him money, but he puts them on regardless. He's also heavily involved with Matchroom sport, bringing Sky TV to Scotland whenever he can. As far as I can see, he puts on local small hall shows whenever he can, local boxers within their own area, like Ryan Brawley in Irvine, Gary McArthur in Clydebank, Kevin Anderson in Kirkcaldy and Barry Morrison in Motherwell. So, biased or not, Greg. Good promoter
I don't know the fella but he gets involved in plenty of shows, I guess there will be politics and disagreements to be found with everyone I guess...:think
Craig, I'm not saying he's a bad promoter. I suppose my comment about title shots is more as a manager than as promoter. The reason I wondered if you would comment was because you work for him, just being a wee bit cheeky. The dinner show thing is just my general frustration at what I miss out on in the sport and I can only comment from my own experience. I will admit that I should have said that I do appreciate the work he does to get public shows on through his links with Matchroom and I have been to a good few of them and always enjoyed myself.
I think I should also mention that the shows he's been involved with promoting in Aberdeen have generally been a good night out and worth the 3 hour journey.
Gilmours better than Alex Morrison I suppose, but Im not a fan. Hes got too many of his fighters shafted cos he only cares about the money, NOT his fighters. IMHO of course.