Joshua Clottey does not have an effective defence

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  1. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao is actually my second fighter, my first fighter got demolished by him though :/
     
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  2. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    clottey has an incredible defence. you are a fool to think that. i guess on that level marlon starling is poor aswell.

    punchstats for 1 fight might be a poor judgment. but almost none of his matches are under 20% over his whole televised career.


    also the whole fight last week was just one long combination by manny. dont blame clottey for pacman covering him up.


    an example would be ike quartey opening up agaisnt delahoya...didnt work so well
     
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  3. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Clottey hasn't faced anyone with such a high workrate before, that's why he was able to exchange with cotto, judah, etc. They don't keep going like manny does, so he has no choice.
     
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  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now the next question, "What is up with that work rate?"
     
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  5. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    I disagree. Clottey does have a good defense. That he doesn't utilize angles, positioning, waist and head movement, counterpunching, etc does not mean he has a bad defense. This isn't football where a good defense beats a good offense. Clottey would of gotten stopped or ko'd if not for that defense that many fighters disregard. That he couldn't pull the trigger is a different story.
     
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  6. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The point is that he blocked a lot of shots from the p4p #1 guy... his defence cant be that bad.
     
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  7. horst

    horst Guest

    I could write a lengthy, detailed response which would simultaneously embarrass you and educate you, but I'm trying to spend less time on imbeciles on here these days, so I'll provide you with posts from two people who actually understand boxing, and leave it at that:

     
    horst, Mar 21, 2010
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  8. horst

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    His defensive style meant he lost every round. Therefore, it is not an effective style to use. With his physical advantages over Pacquiao, he should've at least been able to make it competitive. Cotto at least won a round or two. Clottey was unable to stop Pac scoring to the body, and he was never in a position to strike back, and he was never able to deter Pac from wading in.
     
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  9. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    What a stupid post.

    Clottey's defense is good enough to beat 90% of the boxers at welter. He beat Cotto though was robbed, I scored his fight with Margarito a draw, and he would give Mosley a good fight. Everyone else besides Floyd and Pac he has a chance to beat.

    Clottey is not fast, and not overly powerful, the reason he is able to compete at this level is because he had a good defense.

    Easily the dumbest thing Ive read on these forums yet.
     
    MichiganWarrior, Mar 21, 2010
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  10. horst

    horst Guest

    If Clottey didn't spend half the night in his defensive shell, he would've creamed Cotto. Against Cotto, he was clearly the better man, but his defensive style prevents him from being active and aggressive enough. His defensive style lost him the fight vs Cotto and it failed against Pacquiao. Whenever Clottey attacked vs Pac, he had success. His offence was effective. But whenever he retreated into the shell, he lost rounds. I dunno why I'm bothering trying to discuss boxing on a technical level with a ****ing idiot like you though, it's clear from your post that you think defence in boxing means letting punches hit your gloves instead of your face, and that's all there is to it. Cheers for your input Eddie Futch :good
     
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  11. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know where you get your logic from, but you might want to think it over
     
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  12. Club Fighter

    Club Fighter Boxing Addict banned

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    Silly thread. The man has excellent defense. His transitional skill and aggressiveness leave much to be desired tho.
     
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  13. Crax Sellerman

    Crax Sellerman Guest


    Difference is, you can win with no defense. You can't win with no offense. Offense can work as defense, defense cannot work as offense.


    Manny Pacquiao got hit by Ricky Hatton far less than Floyd Mayweather did.

    Pacquiao got hit by Cotto less than Clottey did.
     
    Crax Sellerman, Mar 21, 2010
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  14. Kostello

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    I will never watch another Joshua Clottey fight and I hope he goes broke.
     
    Kostello, Mar 21, 2010
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  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Pacquiao landed 3% of his jabs.
     
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