What else would Floyd ask for IF Manny agreed to the tests?

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    :good
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Money...split.....based on what floyd has said recently.
     
  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    so what your saying (arguments sake) is that HE WOULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN THE DRUG TEST BEFORE??? BUT NOW HE WILL?

    BTW HE SAID "IF HE DOES MORE BUYS WITH SHANE"
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Pacquiao really wanted the Mayweather fight as I suspect he does'nt, he really painted himself into a corner by accepting the Clottey fight on PPV.

    Now the Mayweather-Mosley fight will likely outsell the Clottey fight by double.....and you take that with Mayweather outselling Pac in every PPV event against a like opponent, Pac really cant justify a 50/50 split.

    If Pac wanted the fight, he had his opportunity for a 50/50 split and he blew it.
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I have 2 opinons on this one and im undecided..

    My first opinion is that there is so much money on the table lets not get greedy and a 50/50 is fine..

    My second opinion is that if Floyd does infact outdo the Cotto-pac fight by enough than "dont get greedy" but at the same time he will be the proven draw if he does outsell the cotto-pac fight...
     
  6. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Where in the world do you have a thread where he wants you to to do a Nostradamus by predicting what Mayweather would ask when negotiations do happen and then claim that he owns you because you gave an answer (which is obviously a sarcastic answer)?

    It is like putting your hand in your pocket, grab some few coins, then ask someone to predict how much money you have in your hand. Now if you can not get the right answer, he then claims to "own" you.

    Is not that a pathetic idiot?

    BTW, I am just posting to point out how pathetic and idiotic the thread is. It seems not many can recognize one.
     
  7. DRMULLEN

    DRMULLEN Active Member Full Member

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    for Manny's autograph.
     
  8. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if you are referring to the TS,the stupidnest.
    He certainly is.
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You know as well as I that the fight will do better numbers and NO....I don't think he said that if the numbers are better but logically that would be the only rational reasoning behind making the comment that "we are not going to have a 50/50 split" next time.

    I was just answering your question....what if any requests/demands would Floyd come up with if Manny by chance agreed to the intial fight obstacle which was NOT MONEY, but the demands for olympic testing.

    So with that element resovled the money or split issue would most likely be the culprit in killing the 2nd round of negotiations for Floyd vs Manny. Ironic if that happened.
     
  10. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    But your assuming all that at this point as far as him asking for the bigger part of the split..

    AS HISTORY SHOWS US, WHEN EVERYONE ON ESB AND ALOT OF FANS OUTSIDE ESB SAID THAT FLOYD WOULDN'T TAKE 50/50 AND THAT WOULD BE "HIS EXCUSE" HE CLEARLY PROVED EMM WRONG WHEN HE TOOK THE 50/50 SPLIT...

    BUT NOW YOUR EVEN MORE DESPERATE..YOUR USING WHAT COULD BE A NEW REASON FOR FLOYD TO SO CALL "DUCK MANNY" (EVEN THOUGH UR IN THE MINORITY WHEN IT COMES TO FANS WHO ACTUALLY THINK THAT)...

    U STILL HAVEN'T REFERENCED BACK TO WHAT FLOYD WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR BEFORE EITHER?

    YOUR ARGUMENT IS GOING TO PIECES BY MOST UP IN HERE MAN...AGAIN..U CLAIM "HIS ACTIONS" AND "RISK-REWARD" BUT MOSLEY IS ALOT HARDER FIGHT FOR FLOYD AND WORTH A LOT LESS MONEY FOR FLOYD SO YOUR CLAIM OF "RISK-REWARD" IS BULL****...

    Why would Floyd fight a much harder fight against a much bigger fighter than he is for probably less than half of what he could have made with the RECOGNIZED BEST FIGHTER IN THE SPORT AND A MUCH BIGGER PAYDAY AND DRAW IN MANNY PACQUIAO...:huh PLEASE EXPLAIN? CUZ FOR YEARS AND YEARS EVERYONE ON THIS ***** WAS SAYIN FLOYD WOULD NEVER EVER FIGHT SHANE NO MATTER THE REASON...ALL OF A SUDDEN HE FIGHTING HIM BUT IT AINT NO GOOD ANYMORE...:bart

    STOP USING THAT WEAK ASS "RISK REWARD" **** AND THATS WHY HE CHOSE SHANE...IF YOU DONT REMEMBER RIGHT HE WANTED TO FIGHT MANNY EVEN AFTER SHANE JUMPED IN THE RING AND CONFRONTED HIM:think HE ANNOUNCED THE FIGHT ON THE DAY OF THE PAC-HATTON PRESSER:deal

    U ALWAYS FAIL TO SHOW ANYTHING TO BACK WHAT YOUR SAYING MAN:deal UR IGNORANCE SHOWS WITHIN YOUR POSTS

    U KEEP GETTIN PUT BACK IN SCHOOL :ko
     
  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    THAN LETS COMPARE IT TO THE COTTO-PACQUIAO FIGHT...THAT FIGHT IS ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THIS ONE....IF IT DOES MORE THAN THAT FIGHT THAN WE'LL SEE WHO IS THE BIGGER DRAW:think
     
  12. charlievint

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    :lol: You clown! :rofl Of course I'm assuming. I don't know which direction the winds of Floyd will send his **** flying any given day of the week any better than you. I can just speculate.....just as you do.

    I agree with that....myself included NEVER in 100 yrs would Floyd agree to an even split with manny. I have to admit I was pleasantly surprised and to me it solidified that Floyd was very much on board with wanting to back up all his talk about beating and outclassing Manny.

    But I had no idea that out of left field would be these allegations which would be the set up for the demands that ultimately killed the fight. And I'm actually NOT in the minority bro. Most feel that Floyd is concerned about loosing to manny. The odds makers, the media, the fans....both casual and hardcore. Now the ones who side with Floyd are some very loyal Mayweather fans and a few sprinkeled here and there that honestly feel Floyd is right...but you are WAAAAAY off if you think the vast majority feel Floyd is NOT at fault here.

    You and your logic....or lack there of.:lol: You think Shane is more of a threat and risk....but that's you...NOT FLOYD. Floyd's actions with Shane doens't show he's ducked or avoided Shane....even in his prime. Which to me doesn't warrant anyone thinking that Floyd is concerned over Shane and waht he brings to the ring.

    Manny on the other hand has shown Floyd to be concerned based on his actions, words and stance on the whole allegations and drug testing issue. It can't be any easier to understand than what your eyes and ears tell you.

    I never said Floyd wouldn't fight Shane...I just felt shane missed his opportunity and taht Floyd was on to bigger and better options to fatten his pockets and Shane wasn't in the mix. But I thought Floyd didn't want to fight Shane NOW b/c the money wasn't right and if it don't make dollars....for Floyd that don't make sense. With Manny out of the mix Shane was his next best thing...therefore the opportunity door reopened for Shane.

    Glad you took the helment off long enough for you to do additional damage to your already pea sized brain.:yep
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely! Well....for the most part. Floyd and manny to me are just as popular in the US with the chance Floyd may have just a tad bit more drawing power. He's a US citizen, Olympic athlete...one of the most decorated AM and PRO boxers ever. He deserves to be in this position....but with that Said...Manny is quite possibly just as or slightly more popular in the US....Globally it's not even a fair debate. PAC globally eclipses anything Floyd has to bring on a world scale.

    The problem with Manny is that Floyd has GBP who are more into marketing on a global and more dynamic scale than TOP RANK and Bob Arum who pinches pennies like a Jew is known for. That goes along with Marketing of his fighters to build up a promotion.

    Floyd has a better foundation for builiding a MEGA fight than Manny based on their promotional teams which is NOT Floyd or Manny's fault.

    So YES....COTTO/MANNY in comparision to SHANE/MAY is completely reasonalble and If Floyd asked for more of the pie than Manny that would be just.

    You are only as good as your last showing in this sport when comparing apples to apples which is what you did here. But your question was "what would be any other excuses that Floyd would come up with if Manny agreed to the testing"....and the split would be the only thing I could think of.
     
  14. dodong

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    Pac verbally agreed to the fight, both sides had already agreed to 50-50, 8 oz. gloves and 147.

    10 days later, Floyd asked Pac for OSDT. :patsch

    .... and in this article, guess who asked Arum to change what he already agreed to.
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    "When I was in Arum's office he talked about different splits," recalled Shaw, who said at that time the numbers he was told differed from the ones he had agreed to. "I started to yell, I said, 'It's gotta be 50-50.' He
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    said, "All right, all right. Why are you yelling? I'm just the messenger. Come back, we'll do the deal." I walked downstairs here at the Beverly Hills Hotel, I said, 'We have a deal?' He looked at me and said, '55-45.' I said, 'No, 50-50. He said, 'There's no deal.' "
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  15. ripcity

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