Why Haye and Tua can't beat Klitschko

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  1. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    Size difference. Eddie Chambers couldn't hit higher than the body and I don't think Haye or Tua are bigger than him.

    Klitschko is going to have his left arm stretched right out (it's actually freakish how he can do that for 12 rounds considering how heavy his arm must be) and won't let them ever get close. If they do, he clinches, and even though Tua is a strong guy, Klitschko is strong AND big.

    At the end of the day, the best asset of both Klitschko's, especially Wlad, is that they fight like they were lightweights, with heavyweight power and super heavy size.

    It's going to take something exceptional to beat either of them.
     
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  2. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And yet they're both been beaten before by smaller men before. Poof goes your theory. A few successful consecutive fights, doesn't mean they're unbeatable, even by smaller men. Size is not the key. Skill and desire are
     
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  3. RJD

    RJD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eddie Chambers

    height 6′ 1″ / 185cm
    reach 75″ / 191cm


    David Haye

    height 6′ 3″ / 191cm
    reach 78″ / 198cm


    Wladimir Klitschko

    height 6′ 6½″ / 199cm
    reach 81″ / 206cm


    The size and reach disparity between Haye and Klitschko isn't as great as that between Klitschko and Chambers. If Haye loses, it won't be because Wlad was 'too big', it will be because he's not good enough.
     
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  4. Scrussell

    Scrussell Active Member Full Member

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    what then is your blueprint for beating them??
     
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  5. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Tua wins (or someone like tua) if its a 5 foot ring.
     
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  6. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    Vitali, just the once. Wladimir is much better than he was 6 years ago.

    No, it's not only because he's too big, but rather because he's a huge guy who KNOWS how to use it to his advantage.
     
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  7. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    Isolate the opponent's weakness and take advantage of it.
     
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  8. mirage72

    mirage72 New Member Full Member

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    akxtinguish tua id say youre spot on with that prediction but to say haye cant hit wlad coz hes too small is a crock he had the big friendly giant on ***** street with only a half landed heavy left in the 12 against valuev so shut up !!!!!
     
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  9. pureboxer

    pureboxer Guest

    :good
     
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  10. pureboxer

    pureboxer Guest

    I hope Haye somehow can pull it of, but I dont really believe he will.
     
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  11. HughJawang

    HughJawang "I know I'm pretty" Full Member

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    'aye actually getting into the ring would go a long way toward settling it..
     
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  12. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Points to consider:

    Haye is a notably larger man than Chambers.

    Wlad has been beaten 3 times, all by people smaller than him.

    Haye has a win over a person standing around 7 foot tall.
     
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  13. HughJawang

    HughJawang "I know I'm pretty" Full Member

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    After " 'urtin 'is back " to avoid a 6'7" guy no less...
     
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  14. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats how they beat most of their competition. So far the only fighters the same size or bigger have been Lennox Lewis and Valuev.

    Vitali got beat by Lennox (lets leave it there) and neither of them have been up for fighting Valuev.
     
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  15. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    The only difference being that Valuev was a slow fighter who pawed with his jab, whereas Wladimir has got incredible speed and strength behind his laser jab. Don't forget that Valuev hardly threw anything, whereas Wladimir has an incredible workrate and can literally walk around 12 rounds with his left arm held out in front of him.
     
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