How would 21st century training, nutrition 'n PEDs improved ATGs?

You seem to be an advocate of the modern techniques yet the best out there according to many is FMJ, who you say doesn't use PEDs, and I've seen in an interview recently saying that he tries to use natural body weight for strength training. You also claim that there would be increased endurance yet a few top fighters today are know for running out of gas in the age of the 12 round fight. Hard to imagine a better example of endurance than old timer Joe Gans beating Battling Nelson in the Nevada heat in a 42 round fight that I understand had a decent punch per round rate.

 

If it wasn't obvious, I meant the last post to be a response to Power Puncher.

 

Bad news for you but if you're worried about boxing ruining lives, it extends far beyond a man being made disabled, look at all the tragic stories of boxers, McClellan is an obvious 1, but most suffer long term damage that ruins there lives 1 way or another

Maybe you should follow a different sport

 

There are substances that increase stamina, not just EPO there are natural supplements that have similar effects, obviously any old timer using them would have more stamina.

In measurable sports, such as athletics, all modern athletes are by far surpassing the athletes of 100years ago

If fighters had to fight 42rounds today, they could, the quality would drop, much like Im sure it would have with Gans-Nelson. BTW either man could run out of gas in a 12round fight if they were forced to fight at a uncomfortable pace/intensity, running out of gas is as much to do with pacing yourself.

 

Gerald's sisters should burn your house down with you in it.

 

The big advantage of PED's is that they reduce recovery time. People think steroids and they think bigger muscles, but the real attraction to athletes is they allow their bodies to recover more quickly and thus play at an overall higher level from game to game. I could see this being very beneficial to a sport like boxing that is so tough on the body---harder, longer training sessions, and the ability to keep up that higher training pace on a daily basis. And these things would build off of each other.

So I think endurance, strength, and energy levels would definitely be improved throughout a boxing match as a result.

 

On the other hand, it would take some of the pound-for-pound claims away, if he spent his entire career at welterweight. For the record, i don't think that would've been a big negative. For instance, i rate someone like Monzon very high even though he never left his weight class.

 

Specifically, J, how would ATGs be improved? Can you theorize which ones would benefit the most?

 

Well, obviously they wouldn't change intangibles, which we all know is a huge factor in boxing. And you would still have to push the limits to take advantage of them to rise above the field.

I suppose the boring answer is they would help everyone out in the physical factors I mentioned, and also if everyone was doing them the field would remain relatively equal. It's impossible to guess which fighter's bodies would react to them most effectively.

You could theorize the type of fighter that could gain a lot from them would be ones that were injury prone while training. What ATG's suffered from these setbacks? For example, Hearns always had issues breaking bones. He was a pretty recent fighter, but those are the lines I'm thinking along.

 

Real food for thought, J. Excellent point.

 

I think PowerPuncher's avatar is pretty good.
It's a tribute to McClellan and Benn, two fine warriors.

A call to burn another postor in his home is a bit unnecessary, I reckon, (in the classic forum at least). :good

 

It's classless.

Classlessness is contagious.

 

It is a disgusting and classless avater. We all know the serious effects of boxing, no need to be reminded of them.

 

Fair enough.
That's your opinion. I dont share it.
I watch that fight (a great fight) on tape now and then, so I'd be a hypocrite to say the avatar offends.

 

I disagree. McClellan should be remembered, he deserves no less.
Would you object to an avatar with Muhammad Ali taking a punch too ?