Are the k bros in top 15 heavyweights of all time

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  1. Tolstoy

    Tolstoy dead Russian novelist Full Member

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    Are you actually questioning the quality of opponents of Jack Johnson, Joe Louis and Mike Tyson? Get a grip man. For a start Johnson wasn't allowed near the "white" heavyweight championship until he was 30 years old yet still managed to reign for over 6 years by beating the best opponents on offer. Joe Louis was champion for over 12 years and had 25 successful title defences, some of them close and challenging encounters. Tyson unified the heavyweight division by beating all the incumbent champions and dominated like no other champion did for decades. If you wanted to question the quality of opponents faced by previous champions I doubt if your choices could've been much worse.
     
  2. MyStyle

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    I rate Vitali higher that's my opinion

    To many times Wlad was on canvas and Wlad is more boring then Vitali,

    Vitali has great chin and some killer instinct

    Wlad is better technician and got great jab

    Both are strong as bears

    To be clear I like both Bros and I respect them very much.
     
  3. dustball

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    borderline top 15 the competition does matter thoughyou cant rate someone high on the list without beating someone great or atleast real good if just dominating bums made you alltime tyson would be on top of everyones list i know its an awkard situation but i almost think they r gonna have to fight each other for them to get ranked in say the top 10 cause they r definately the two best if they werent brothers we would b killing them for not fighting to be the best you gotta beat the best
     
  4. MattMattMatt

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    Shouldn't come into it when deciding who is better. Entertainment value is just that, entertainment, and nothing more (but very important if you want to enjoy watch boxing!).
     
  5. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Remember Lewis has been an active in the last ten years.

    With that in mind can you really say the Klits have been #1?
     
  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    No, not yet. In the 20-30 range.
     
  7. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    H2H all time they are both in the top 5

    but to answer your question i have Wlad 8 and Vitali 10
     
  8. ringsider

    ringsider Active Member Full Member

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    The answer is no.......
     
  9. bleed_oil

    bleed_oil Active Member Full Member

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    Real tough to say I think. The competition is absolutely brutal in the heavyweight division these days... if you take just about any random heavy out of the 70's who was in the top 10 - say Shavers, Terrel or Norton - they walk over everyone today and probably beat either Klit.
    How can you judge a fighter as a great when he fights utter trash like Fast Eddy - sure he can be "good" but great.... no.
     
  10. Napoleon

    Napoleon Smokin' Full Member

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    I'd say Wlad is just in the top 15, and Vitali is around 25.
     
  11. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that sounds fair. I may have Wlad a little lower though.
     
  12. MyStyle

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    I see Vitali has no audience here:)

    I rate Vitali higher
     
  13. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Man i agree totally.
     
  14. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Madness.
     
  15. Beau Geste

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    Top 5. Head to Head.

    Top 10. Accomplishments.