Wlad V George??????

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  1. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    George could fight plus his fight was pressuring his opponent. Wlad would have been in big trouble against George if he couldnt hurt him early.
     
  2. Bummy Davis

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    This fight can go either way, if Foreman can establish the jab that's Key but Foreman was slow, threw roundhouse punches and had poor stamina when he was young. The Care full style that Vlad fights now may enable him to keep Foreman at bay and If Vlad lands a rocket of a right or 2 or one of those hooks...Foreman may go down like he did vs Lyle. I am not sure if Vlad takes punishment well but he is tight as a clam, has good footwork and he would be the best complete fighter that Foreman has ever fought (excluding Ali) and the hardest accurate puncher that Foreman ever fought. Big George has a punchers chance but he may look worst than the Stewart fight after 8rds

    Its all how well Vlad holds up if he gets hit and how well Foreman takes it from this skillfully fit Giant
     
  3. Brian123

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    I like Foreman but Wladimir would be just too much, 11th round KO for Wlad.
     
  4. TheBradyHawkes

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    Wlad holds Foreman for 12 rounds, petrified. :D
     
  5. bodhi

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    Foreman has nowhere the hand-speed of Sanders though. And Sanders didn´t have the size disadvantage of George. Yeah, Wlad has a speed advantage over George too. He would get off first, keep him on the outside for most of the time. Fighting very, very cautious. And in the end wins.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Sanders had faster hands but only the left mattered, because his right was only to wipe his arse with .
    Size disadvantage ?
    Are you kidding?
    Sanders 6'4'' 225lbs for Wlad, with a 77' reach,and 5 of those lbs were around his gut
    Foreman 6''3 1/2'' 224 3/4lbs for Norton , with an 82'' reach.And all muscle.
    So, Sanders has 1/2inch in height and 1/4 pound in weight ,and is at a 5'' reach disadvantage to Foreman. Plus he is not nearly as durable, or strong ,do you see Foreman getting blown away in 1 rd by 13 fight Nate Tubbs?
    And Foreman has real power in BOTH hands.
    Look, Wlad's left is held at allmost complete extension,he then fully extends to it to make contact , the last couple of inches.
    Foreman ,parried punches with his gloves held up high,it was straight punches coming from the guard position that troubled him, not flapping lefts held out ala Johannson.
    George would slap the left down and come over it with a punch.
    Wlad 's footwork is good when he goes forward ,not so good when he is in retreat ,and abysmal when under real pressure.
     
  7. Bummy Davis

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    Foreman did not fight dangerous fighters coming up. He was carefully brought up on mostly serious losers. The only aggressive puncher he fought was Lyle ( who landed often) and if you take Foreman past 7-8 rds you drown him. Vlad would be vulnerable to Foremans powerful Jab but should be able to avoid his wide swinging blows. I think the jab is the key, may be enough but if Vlad boxes well and carefull he may be able to take Foreman past 8 and take him out
     
  8. MAG1965

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    I think so also. Vitali UD Foreman and Foreman KO6 Vlad
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    People always do that before making a respectful pick. I want someone to say 'I hate 'insert name' and I wish this could happen to see his skull pounded in
     
  10. lefthook31

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    The problem with this post is that George was an elite fighter, and elite fighters have the ability to get inside and take a fighter out of his comfort zone. Wlad has failed miserably against marginal fighters in the same manner, so its hard to say Wlad boxes comfortably from the outside and wins, George simply wouldnt allow it, so what happens if Wlad is taken into a fight hes not capable of handling?
    Sure Wlad has the better outside boxing skills, but that would be less of a factor in this fight. Wlad would be forced to fight, so in my opinion hes reduced to only having a punchers chance, which means he has a chance, but I think after a 5-6 rounds Foreman starts really closing the gap and stops him.
     
  11. mcvey

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    How many dangerous fighters did Wlad meet coming up ?
    The only dangerous real punchers he met kod him.

    Wlad was stopped because of stamina issues against a Journeyman ,Foreman was stopped after throwing power punches for 8rds against a consensus atg.
    Foreman lost a decision to Young in sweltering heat after making the fight all night, and having Young on the verge of going.
    Foreman went 12 rds with the heavyweight champ when he was 42 never floored and never used his stool.
    Foreman went 10rds with Stewart at 43 standing all night.
    Foreman went 12 rds with Morrison at 44 ,ditto.
    Foreman went 10rds with reigning champ Moorer at 45 ditto.
    Foreman went12 rds with Shulze at 46, ditto.
    Foreman went 12 rds with Briggs at 47 ,ditto.

    Morrison,Moorer, Briggs were all serious punchers,and Stewart has a near 76 ko % , 40 kos in 43 wins.
    Who is more durable?

    You pick one fight, where Foreman is stopped against an ATG . I give you 6 when he was in his middle 40's , tell me who has the stamina issue, Wlad gassed against two journeymen or Foreman stopped after throwing bombs for 8 rds, against the consensus number 1 heavyweight, in African humidity?

    Do you think Wlad would have taken the punches Foreman laid on Ali?

    Stamina would not come into play here ,because Wlad is not seeing the middle rounds.
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    Lamon Brewster was really on the level of some of the so-called "bums" Foreman feasted on coming up.
    I mean, Brewster was a "dangerous puncher" who had lost a 10-round decision to Clifford "Chinny" Etienne.
    And Ross Purrity would have been easy work for a young Foreman. And I'm surprised he's not on the list of Foreman victims in the 90s.
     
  13. Boxed Ears

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    You're not really saying Brewster couldn't hit, are you?
     
  14. lefthook31

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    I think what he was saying is that Brewster could punch, but he couldnt even manage to land on and knockout a guy with limited skills and a horrible chin in Etienne. Brewster wasnt that great of a fighter thats all and managed to get in and expose Wlad after sustaining a pretty bad beating.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    I think it was Brewster who had a twisted ankle against Ettienne. Brewster was definately a puncher, but Wlad lost that on a panic attack, something he'd have against Foreman. Purrity was a tough as nuts journeyman with a big punch and a big ******* too, he probably deserved the win over Morrison