Who has beaten more great fighters? Manny Pacquiao or Roberto Duran?

You've said Duran didn't beat ATGs when moving up. He beat SRL. Wrong on your part.

When did I call Moore, Barkley, or Cuevas ATG's? NEVER, MOTHER****ER.

It's you who doesn't know what he's talking about. Calling Leonard green? How was he green when he just stopped a prime Benitez and fought a classic with a prime Duran? You're labeling him green because it's convenient and suits your argument. But we both know you've got a long ways to go before you can resemble anything close to a knowledgeable boxing fan.

I'd find it awfully funny if you got beat over the skull with a led pipe.

 

Here is the entire basis for Duran nuthugger's every post: Bu-bu-bu SUGAR RAY!!!!

And the excuses they come up with for No Mas, and Ray's total domination in the third fight WOW!

 

Palomino was coming off a highly competitive fight with Benitez just months before the Duran domination. If you watch his fights, you'll see how solid of a pro he was. He would have been near or at the very top in today's division.

Moore was a solid fighter who had beaten Ayub Kalule, whose only loss before that was to Leonard. Duran put on a classic performance against Leonard. It's absurd to attempt to take that away from him. Was it SRL who intended on getting hurt in the 2nd round with a beautiful left hook? Or getting countered by rights over his jab? Or hammered to the body against the ropes? People say "Well, he didn't fight his fight." He DID. Leonard wasn't a fleetfooted cutie - he stood flatfooted in most of his fights. Okay, he beat Duran afterward. But it doesn't take away from what Duran did in the first fight AT ALL.

 

There's no reasoning with you bernie on the subject of Duran. Funny that MOST people see just how flawed your arguments are and how senseless most of it is. You're set in your opinions and it's ****ing pointless arguing with you. Good day.

 

No I'm not. If someone showed me previously unknown footage of Duran knocking out Tony Ayala, outpointing Tommy Hearns and beating Benitez it would change my mind. If someone pointed out that boxrec is completely wrong, Duran weighed in at LW for his LW fights and DIDN'T really fight a couple dozen guys with 1-4 records it would change my mind.

Until then, it is what it is, and Duran's record is what it is. I don't think Duran beats Shane Mosley at LW, let alone Pea, Pac, JCC, Ike Williams or Hank Armstrong. At welterweight, take away his one shining moment and he's NOBODY'S idea of a top guy at 147.

EVERYTHING about Duran... EVERYTHING! Hangs on his one fluke win over SRL.

 

Because its fixed, the *******s got all their relatives to vote. You notice in the early to middle part of this thread Duran was blowing him out:yep

 

It is close but Manny is still winning!!!!!

 

And it shouldn't even be close. You can argue that Duran was a better fighter h2h if you want, I disagree but you can make that argument. To argue that their resumes are comparable is just stupid Duran nuthugging to the extreme. Duran lost his fights when he stepped up to ATG competition, except once. Manny has won all of his but one, and he avenged that loss twice.

The fact that this poll is even close just shows how deranged people are about Duran.

 

Pac has beaten 3 ATG's in Morales, MAB, Hoya. Those guys being genuine ATG's is irrefutable...most I believe have those guys in the top 50-100 at least.

Duran as far as I know has beaten 1 ATG in SRL. That said he has beaten a few HOF'rs, Esteban de Jesus, ken Buchanan, Barkley, Davey Moore all very good names IMO.

I rate Duran higher at this point, but to answer the thread, IMO without being bias, the answer is clearly Pac.

 

Bernie, who are these ATG you're talking about? Miguel Cotto? Ricky Hatton? Juan Manuel Marquez? None of them are ATG's in my estimation, he's only fought three of them. One of them beat him whilst past his prime, one of them was dehydraded according to Freddie Roach, and the other he deserves unlimited credit for. There's a huge misconception here. Manny's resume is not filled with ATG's.

 

...and they didn't have HGH available then.

 

They both beat great fighters, but Manny has yet to face anyone remotely close to a Sugar Ray Leonard. People here are seriously confused with who has the higher number of ATG scalps (that would be Manny) and who has the greater names. Even if it is ONE, that ONE is still a bigger win than Manny's all put together. Floyd or Mosley are neither in the level Leonard was. Leonard is a top 10-20 ATG and Duran a top 10. With all due respect, in what spots are Pac's opponents? They're not high up as Leonard or Duran I can tell you that much. This shouldn't even be an argument.

 

Roberto Duran beat one ATG in his prime when he was undefeated at his most effective weight. Ray Leonard is inside the top 20 of most ATG lists, and would go on to achieve great feats at multiple weights.

Manny Pacquiao beat three ATGs, one of them in their prime at their most effective weight class. Erik Morales was past his prime, and would never go on to win another prizefight. Oscar De La Hoya, according to Manny Pacquiao's trainer, best friend, and father-like figure, was both dehydrated and shot. "Can't pull the trigger anymore".

 

exactly duran is overrated and people do not see it. he beat one great who then made him quit!!

 

this poll has stayed constant for days!!! Duran just cannot get ahead here because people know Manny has a better resume.