Pac-Clottey - 700k PPV buys

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  1. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl at the 'spin war'.
     
  2. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac always has a choice. My take on this is it doesn't matter what either Pac or Floyd does in their fights they already agreed to the split and who ever insists on a difference % is basically throwing the fight away, cause neither party is going to budge from this.
     
  4. heatman

    heatman Fight Game Connoisseur Full Member

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    Come on man. If you were Floyd would you still accept a 50-50 deal if you had just doubled Manny's numbers ? I dont think you would. So why would you expect that from him?
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just because you repeat something twice, 3 times even a hundred times doesnt mean the numbers suddenly tell the truth. If the same scenario plays out 3 times, then 3 times its gonna happen.

    If I fight 10 12yr old girls Im gonna win 10 times, are you gonna declare that Im a good boxer because my record is 10-0? No? What if I duplicate that to 40girls? **** sake, ive beaten 40girls why wont you declare me a good boxer yet???

    In all 3 occasions, Floyd was in a much better postion for bigger ppv numbers...except for Maybe the Hatton fight and that explains why the disparity in buys wasnt that big, 100k difference if that.

    Let me ask you this, do you think Floyd-Cotto would do 1.2mil at $55 now after Pac just anihilated Cotto? Well thats basically the position Pac was in for DLH/Hatton and as for JMM, that was pre mainstream pac.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    its more than I had predicted before the fight
     
  7. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really... Who cares???? The best comparison is Pac-Cotto vs Floyd-Marquez.... These were two top notch and top name Latino fighters.... These were both after both Floyd and Pacman had fought and beaten the Golden Boy to elevate each of their own stocks.... they're both huge draws right now and thats good regardless.... Strictly by numbers after Hoya, Floyd is ahead... But every fight gets different coverage, different time period, it's just different.....
     
  8. chili

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    Seriously? No problem here's why. Clottey and JMM are not PPV attractions. So Floyd had to carry JMM like Pac carried Clottey. Cotto and Shane are similar PPV attractions but are much better with a strong A-side fighter like PAC and Floyd. Makes sense now.
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Only with the help of the show 24/7. That show is going to inflate any fights ppv numbers beyond what they would normally be. Also, that's difference between a recognizable name like Mosley over a name like Clottey. Pac vs Mosley would have done more than 700K too. Anyways... that is a great number for Manny, especially with no 24/7 show.
     
  10. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clottey and JMM marketability is nowhere in the same realm:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  11. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    +1

    Also, how bout these numbers: Floyd had 3 years exposure to american audience by 2001, not including his olympic and amateur times. Pac had 0 years.

    1 olympic medal and 1 early scout for FoY for Ring mag would help boster someones reputation.
     
  12. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    24/7, more time to promote, JMM has more fans/appealing style than Clottey.
     
  13. You realize the numbers Pacquiao-JMM II did set a record for any PPV fight at a weight class below 147. So while the 400k number doesn't seem staggering now, it was still record-setting and came before Pacquiao was receiving any real media attention in the US.


    That record was subsequently broken by Pacquiao-Hatton, btw.




    Anyways, 700k is a good number considering the lack of promotion and a relatively unknown opponent coming off a loss.
     
  14. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Thats not a "good" number :deal Mayweather does over 1 million buys in a "farce of a fight" with Marquez, who is no bigger a PPV draw then Clottey is and Mayweather was still willing to give Manny 50%. They gotta go back and rethink those negotiations. I'm not trying to dig at Pacman, more so at Arum really. In the great words of Mike Tyson, Mayweather could do 700k buys jerking off at the garden :lol:
     
  15. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    is this a joke?

    700K against Clottey is what Oscar did against Felix Sturm and Yori Boy Campas combined