Official Pavlik VS. Martinez Poll--April 17th

Im convinced that Martinez boxes Pavliks ears off!

He's so smart on the counter and he can clearly handle pressure as evidenced in the Williams fight, plus he's too slick to get caught BIG by Pavlik.

I like Kelly but his limitations are there to be exposed!

Martinez wins UNANIMOUS!

 

No, not here. Not hype. I think Martinez is a very classy fighter, at 154. 160, especially against someone like Pavlik might be too much, though. To be honest, I don't much care if Martinez doesn't last the distance as long as he wins 3-4 rounds clearly. He's 35 and going up too much, lest we forget.

 

Reports are that he asked DiBella to make the fight happen.

 

The constant references to the Hopkins/Pavlik fight that keep showing up on these threads are pretty amazing.

Bernard Hopkins was one of the greatest middleweights who ever laced up a pair of gloves. He was the undisputed champ, held the title longer, and had more defenses than anyone in history. Names like Monzon, Haglar, and Robinson belong alongside the name Bernard Hopkins, but not many others.

Bhop skipped right over 168, moved to light heavyweight, and beat Tarver who was number one in the division at that time.

Bernard was the Ring #4 P4P fighter when he fought Pavlik.

Hopkins and Pavlik fought at 170, and Hops weighed somewhere between 180-185 on fight night. Reports vary, but no matter how you slice it, BHop was by far the bigger, stronger man that night.

Hopkins probably owns the greatest boxing brain in the history of the sport. If there is a better strategist and tactician in the sport it would be BHop's trainer Nazzim Richardson. Hopkins is the type of fighter for whom the term "ring generalship" was invented, and Nazzim is the type of trainer who knows exactly how to bring the very best out of a fighter.

So, now, somebody please tell me what the **** Sergio Martinez has, or has accomplished, that warrants comparison to Bernard ****ing Hopkins!

 

He barely "lost" to #1P4P Paul Williams. Geez Boo, you losing it? :nut

 

KP HAD TROUBLE WITH THE 43 YEAR OLDS SPEED...HATE TO SEE WHAT TYPES OF PROBLEMS SERGIO GONNA PRESENT HIM WITH HIS SPEED:thinkSERGIO UD 117-111

 

I keep noticing a very conspicuous pattern among Martinez supporters. They do not provide any sort of realistic analysis of how Martinez beats Pavlik. Their entire vocabulary consists of "speed, angles, Bernard Hopkins."

They never mention the fact that KP's knockout ratio in fights at 160 scheduled for 8 or more rounds is 100%, or the fact that no fight at 160 ever went past 9 rounds. They never mention the fact that Martinez can't get out of the way of a right hand to save his mother's life. They seem oblivious to the fact that Martinez telegraphs his two best punches from 3 feet away. They never mention the fact that Sergio's jab stinks to high heaven, or that he would have trouble clinching almost any true middleweight. And they sure as hell do not mention the fact that Martinez has almost zero fundamental boxing skills, or that he relies almost entirely on speed and athleticism that goes to rack and ruin after 5 or 6 rounds!

Martinez claims he will have Pavlik all figured out after 8 rounds, and then he'll bust KP up and knock him out. If you're going to figure Pavlik out, you sure as **** better do it long before the end of 8 rounds, because the vast majority of Kelly's fights do not last that long.

[close rant/]

 

Another T/KO stoppage for Pavlik

 

Pavlik is too big, too strong, very effective (body puncher) ... great right hand ... and is durable.

Martinez will crumble under pressure.

 

^^^ i don't think even bob arum will get him licensed in the states again. pav/williams at the staduim w/ a big card would be pretty sweet.

 

I don't think the haters would boycott if he was in against someone that could whup his ass though. I think they would pay well to see that.

 

Hermit/booradley ! Let's do an avatar bet !