Dan Rafael's P4P List??

Calzaghe "claimed" that he was finished making 168lbs and that is why he was moving up anyway. Nice try though. But you're right, yes that even makes my point stronger. And sorry if I make mistakes I'm at work and trying to post quick, but the point and case is there. Hopkins is being overrated here.

 

gotta move in-n-out up

where is FAT BURGER??

 

I know, I thought of putting in-n-out at the top.

 

Those no name greasy chicken spots near projects in spanish hoods KO1 everything else :yep

You know the ones im talking about... The ones with the bullet proof glass and revolving door for you to pay/receive food from

 

How does it NOT make sense to you?

What "elite" fighter has Hopkins beat at their own weight in the past 5 years, what "top" fighter has Hopkins beat at their own weight in the past 5 years.

Say Tarver, but there is a very strong argument that Tarver reached the top of the mountain after his first win over Jones and declined from there, and especially after filming the movie and having to lose all the weight, he wasn't himself. Anyone with 1/2 a brain can see that.

 

Winky Wright.

 

Why don't you try your hardest to make a case for ranking BHOp over JMM :good

 

At 170lbs, Winky was GREAT at 154 and very good at 160. and you didn't clearly see how much the weight effected winky?

 

If I was a yank I'd be a fat *******

 

Yeah, but he was elite.

Anyone has trouble with winky.
I agree with you mostly, I'm just saying no one walks over winky.

 

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying Hopkins isn't "great". Not at all. But how does his win over Winky mean anymore then Floyd's win over JMM? Winky was elite and great, but if you don't concede that adding 10lbs to an elite fighter effects their effectiveness, I think you're being naive. Hopkins was ALWAYS a natural Lt Heavy, he admits this much, he can hold the weight much better then Winky could and Pavlik even.

And to be honest I thought Winky was winning the fight until I saw him slow down in the 2nd half, and I suspect the added weight had something to do with it.

 

I don't think either win was stellar.
But I do think beating a fighter like winky wright is a tall order.

 

In TX Whataburger is p4p king, followed by Burger King. Churchs Chicken kos KFC, and Taco Cabana kos Taco Bell. We don't have In n Out but I heard there good.

 

I agree with that, absolutely. I just don't think it helps your P4P standing significantly if you are beating smaller fighters.

 

Oh hell no, churches chicken sucks.... They got no meat on them bones.... Their sides suck balls too