Why didnt Sugar Ray Leonard ever give anyone a rematch?

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  1. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    All 3 men went in different directions. Duran moved up in weight after quitting and Leonard retires after beating Hearns who immediately moved up in weight like Duran. SRL beat them both in fights that didn't even go the distance.. The man had nothing else to really proove after beating Hearns, from there on everything was icing on his career. Whose to say Hearns and Duran couldn't have made it happen sooner? Why put it all on Leonard? You know **** about what could and could not have happened

    He beats a prime Duran and Hearns yet you complain about not beating them in a rematch while they were still in there prime? Good stuff.
     
  2. _King_

    _King_ drunken master Full Member

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    100% true!!! Duran - Leonard -Hearns - Hagler - were all ATG, a true great era, it's amazing they all fought againt each other in the first place!!! people just need to appreciate these fight happening in history.
     
  3. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    hagler fell right into rays trap.he boxed ray instead of mugging him.he fought rays fight not his own.he tried to one up ray on everything ray did
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Duran was expecting a rematch with Leonard. Says so in every interview. Duran gave Leonard a rematch, was not decisively beaten, more like not willing to engage Leonard and his tactics, a rematch much sooner would have been nice to seal who was the better man.

    And Leonard did have something to prove when he beat Hearns, could he do it again, I mean he was losing fairly wide on the scorecards when hes stopped him, would he need another last minute KO? Or could he finish the job earlier without losing most of the fight?

    **** man, its like Morales not giving Barrera a rematch after their first fight. Or any of the great trilogies and rematches in the history of the sport. Especially when thats the #2 and #3 welterweights of any era.

    Umm yeah. Because he lost to Duran, and the Hearns fight was close. Usually when that happens rematches happen.

    Leonard had a fight in 82 and 84. None of these were Duran or Hearns? Why?
     
  5. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    leonard vs hearns 1 is my favorite fight of all time
    no welterweight of this era comes close to either one of them
     
  6. _King_

    _King_ drunken master Full Member

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    Leonard doesn't get enough credit sometimes!!
    Most other fighters would of stayed retired knowing they beat two fighters like Duran and Hearns!!!! but he came back and still gave them a rematch!
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Don't anyone forget.
    Duran still ranks higher on almost all ATG lists than leonard does.
    He got his just dues.
     
  8. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's Duran's fault if he wasn't in shape for not training properly. Duran may be an ATG, but its still not acceptable for a pro boxer to get frustrated and quit because he's getting embarrassed.
     
  9. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can argue a lot about that. The Duran from the first fight will always give Leonard all kinds of trouble for me
     
  10. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    You can put that all on Duran. The man came to fight and lost. People can twist it anyway they want but making someone like Duran quit was a much more decisive victory then what happened in there first fight. Maybe the man had an upset stomach, but you shouldn't be expecting a 3rd fight after you quit in the second one, especially if the man is retired and at a lower weight class.

    You can't quite compare the Morales/Barrera situation to this one. Morales/Barrera 1 could have gone either way, Hearns was out on his feet for a few rounds and Duran quit in a rematch.

    Leonard was fighting in 82 and 84 at WW and on his own terms.. As he earned it beating those two men, along with some time off. I'm sure he wasn't going to just cater, move up and fight Duran or Hearns anyplace at anytime on there terms. Would you?

    One thing I will say is there should have been a 3rd SRL/Hearns fight.
     
  11. _King_

    _King_ drunken master Full Member

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    Umm yeah. Because he lost to Duran, and the Hearns fight was close. Usually when that happens rematches happen.

    Leonard had a fight in 82 and 84. None of these were Duran or Hearns? Why?[/quote]

    Duran lost to Lost two times in a row in '82 (one was benitez, who Leonard beat)

    he then lost tow times to hearns and Hagler in '83 and '84, then didn't fight for year and a half, so leonard probably didn't think Duran fight was a meaningful one at this point

    Duran came back won his next six fights until he lost again to Leonard!!!

    He could of fought heanrs straight away but the didn't he retired after a fight in '82 due to him having a eye surgery!!! in '84 hearns was gearing up for a fight between Hagler, if Hearns would of won that match, a fight between Leonard might of hapened sooner!!! but it didn't because he lost,

    man u just being a ***** now, i know your from Michigan (so was Hearns) and thats your boxer, but Leonard was a ATG whatever you say, atleast he fought them and your argument that he didn't fight them straight after is weak man, i gave u the facts just get over with it

    if it makes u feel better Leonard went on to say he felt Heanrs won that 2nd fight which was a draw!!
     
  12. _King_

    _King_ drunken master Full Member

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    the main reason why Duran looked good in the first fight was leonard was fighting flat footed, he was fighting more on the ropes and in the corners, so basically he fought Duran's fight! don't get me wrong Duran was a warrior in the first fight and beat leonard, but what i was trying to prove was that leonard figured him out in the 2nd fight and realised his mistke from the first
     
  13. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duran's motivation and desire to win in the first fight were inhuman. I think he would have won even if Leonard fought his best match ( which he didn't I agree with you) Both fighters are ATG and fought almost everyone so I respect them a lot. And moreover I can understand if Leonard didn't want to fight Duran or the Hitman 3 times a year :). They were monsters
     
  14. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :deal
     
  15. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with you on Duran. Actually, even SRL confessed in an interview that he wanted the rematch immiediately due to knowing that Duran parties and gains tons of weight right after his fights. Duran's team tried to talk him out of an immediate rematch and his team tried to cancel the fight, but Don King was not having it. To lose all that weight and then have to chase SRL around the ring was too much. Now, if he would have had the third fight with him, who knows if the Duran from the first fight shows up. SRL needed all advantages and this was a big one.

    As far as SRL giving Hearns a rematch back then. You say to prove he can do it again. No, if the people clamored for it and the money was right, it would have happened. I believe one poster said SRL retired soon after due to his eye so why go through all that again.