Abraham only -200 over Dirrell? Do the odds experts know something?

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  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know we've had some weird betting odds in recent times. De la Hoya only being -165 against Pacman when most boxing experts and fans picked De la Hoya. Same situation with Pacman vs Cotto. Pacman was a pretty big favorite at about -250 but most boxing experts and fans were nearly divided on who would win. In both cases, the odds makers were right to some extent.

    Now, we have Abraham at -200 over Dirrell. Do the odds makers know something that i don't? I don't see how Dirrell wins. Can someone explain? I'm thinking about putting some good money on Abraham.
     
  2. GSP

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    is that for decision? you do realise mate if it goes to a decision AA has no chance. 3michigan judges and the ref is from michigan to:patsch
     
  3. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    they know how to count money


    they make their money off the vig, so they could give a **** who bets on who, as long they pay
     
  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Homefield advantage, and a significant one at that. Arthur's going to have to bring nothing short of his A game to get the victory Saturday.
     
  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, it's just for him to win overall.

    The thing is, Dirrell is not a high workrate guy to being with so there is no guarantee he wins rounds. And history has shown that when Dirrell fights guys who have the potential to hurt him, he runs and holds. I don't know if he can run for 12 rounds. AA is much better than Froch or Curtis Stevens.

    No judges are going to give Dirrell rounds by just running.
     
  6. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    all i can think about is the last fight camp 360 where dirrell was watching jt get koed by aa. he was dead silent and his team even the fat guy stopped eating. i think that's in dirrell's head. AA is in direll's mind.
     
  7. Hermit

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    So far, all home fighters have won. AA isn't a high volume puncher. Dirrell could win rounds with 20 punches or less, thus minimizing his exposure and not giving AA what he needs. Counter opportunities and a chance to analyze Dirrell.
     
  8. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Good point. Plus we haven't seen AA letting an all-out assault, he's careful and conservative with his punches. And Dirrell isn't gonna just stand in front of him like JT did and get knocked out. Granted, AA is a better boxer than Froch, but Froch puts more pressure to his opponents, AA is not a pressure fighter, he just waits for the right time to throw his bombs.

    As some have mentioned, this could be a really ugly fight, but it will be interesting to see how the fight will unfold, given that both fighters prefer to counterpunch and not initiate the action.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    AA does let flurries loose as the fight goes on when he figures out when and how to best attack. His combinations come fast and ferociously.

    But i can see the logic in Dirrell possibly being able to pot shot his way to a UD. He is much lighter on his feet than JT. I can't wait for this fight.
     
  10. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Saurland isgoing to get the judges changed it's in the contract thats the Not all the officials can be from the same state they did it to Ward. trust they'll pull out AA this time if it doesn't get changed.
     
  11. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Save your breath. If people read the rules and understand what is going on what do they have left to rant about....:D I've read this isn't true anyhow, it is just Saurland making noise. I don't care enough to track it down myself. I figure we'll find out eventually.
     
  12. lewishamboy

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    Smart money is definitely on Dirrell in this fight...i got pretty damn good odds on Dirrell UD.
     
  13. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    He does flurry, but you don't see him do it very often. My point was that he usually spends more time waiting than attacking. Maybe Dirrell's style will force him to attack more, giving Dirrell more chances to counter, but maximizing his own chances of hurting Dirrell.

    And something else about this fight: I don't understand how most people expect AA to KO Dirrell, but absolutely noone mentions the possibility of Dirrell hurting AA. AA has a granite chin, granted, but Dirrell has showed he can punch. I'm not saying it's likely to happen, but we can't rule out that possibility.
     
  14. Semlin

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    They know Direll is trying to install his brothers and cousins as the ring ref and the 3 point judges as well as to let his own mother sit by the bell to end the round when the going gets tough for Direll - many thanks to the external counselor Ahmet Öner of Germany for the splendid idea...

    How very disgusting you Americans are ranting permanently about "robberies" in Europe, while the real robberies are organized and executed in the States to benefit the Americans... So just keep shouting "catch the thief!" to mask your own thievery :tired

    I bet the ref will take points from Abraham for holding his guard tight and punching Direll hard, both being extremely unfair means of preventing Direll to win, which of course can't be allowed... And when Abraham scores a devastating KO, he'll be DQed for low blows :rofl
     
  15. tays001

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    told you they would get them changed not a single official is from MI:good