Frank Mir is too big !!!!!

I agree and stated myself that putting on 20 lbs that fast isn't going to help you. Mir needs to play his own game. He'll never out-muscle Lesnar no matter what he does, it's just not natural for him to fight that big. It was nice seeing him humbled again, but he'll be back, talkin his **** and grinnin all the way to the bank soon.

 

I dont think it helps either. Lets face it, Mir has taken more poundings while on his back than Tito's wife. I dont think he took Carwin as seriously as he should have. Not sayin he overlooked him but he should have concentrated at the job in hand instead of goin all WWE with Brock & the verbals

 

awesome

I agree Mir looked too relaxed with Carwin, especially when he was pinned against the cage but after eating the first 2 uppercuts it was too late for him to realize he should've been taking him a lot more seriously

 

I don't think it would have mattered. Sounds like excuses to me. Carwin is just a bomb thrower. Its not like Mir even really had a chance to do anything. Carwin grabbed him pinned him to the cage and punched the **** outta him. THAT is what Carwin does. Mir looked bigger then Carwin anyway so I don't know what you mean he is "too small" for the bigger HW's. Carwin just plain won last night. Get over it.

 

why do people say things like 'wrestling aside' as if wrestling isnt part of whats important in mma

ya cant put wrestling aside because its a massive part

its like saying carwins more skilled than mir, if you put jits aside

carwin has better hands than mir & better wrestling

mir has better jits & experience.. powerful hands & good boxing + good wrestling caliber > jits & a **** sure striker in mir

 

Cain is a wrecking machine with those hands.

I don't really like Mir. I met him once and he was pretty arrogant but that's neither here nor there. It's just his overall demeanor that I find annoying, but yes he's a very good fighter nonetheless

 

I think, you guys hold Mir in too high a regard. He's a good BJJ guy, pretty good subs, and he's a pro. But, he's not this extraordinary fighter everyone thinks he is.

 

His size wasn't the problem. Although I do think that he should go for a thinner, quicker version of himself... trying to use his speed and agility to his advantage rather than matching strength with strength.

However, that wasn't the problem in this fight. If you look throughout Mir's career... he has always had a problem dealing with and recovering from damage. All 5 of his losses have came in the same type of manner. Either someone hurts him on his feet and finishes him on the ground with strikes... or someone takes him to the ground... and finishes him on the ground with strikes. I have always felt like he didn't have very good punch resistance. It sure doesn't help matters when his last two opponents (that beat him) hit like a mule.

What Mir does have is good striking technique, good movement, very good submissions, great agility for his size, speed, and experience.

 

What are you talking about? Mir was 265 at the weigh ins. I doubt Mir has seen 170 since he was a teenager.

Oh and get over the fact that one of the most inconsistent HW out there just lost.

 

Frank's size is fine he looked quick and light on his feet but didnt fight smart and got KTFO. Being 245 would not have helped his chin or problem anyones vs Shane Carwin.