Smitty Son's Top 20 All Time Fighters List *Forgive the Length*

How am i being sarcastic? Im being straight with you i was short and to the point. Also you didnt answer my question how many greats have made over 30 title defenses?

 

Wrong Walcott, I was taling about the former welterweight champ. The Barbados Demon Joe Walcott the orginal.

 

I think i would but Barbadoes Joe in my top 20,based on resume and how small he was, never seen him fight though. Probably no footage on him. Am i correct?

 

Tell me how Chavez resume is superoir to Canzoneri´s. It isn´t. Chavez defended belts over 30 times, how often defended he championships?

 

Yes he made over 30 title defenses what part of that dont you understand? If you dont believe it go to boxing records, and im not including his non title fights either. Chavez was a pfp #1 guy for about 5 years in a strong era, Canzoneri cant make that claim.

Dont get me wrong im not in no way trying to dismiss Canzoneri he was definitley an All time great just not as high as Chavez in my book, I rank Canzoneri in the top 25 no lower than 30.

 

Chavez made over 30 defences of belts, not championships. There´s a difference. Canzoneri fought in a better era and beat better fighters. There is no disputing that.

 

Well he did face more ATGs but Chavez resume is pretty good himself didnt beat a number of ATGs but beat a bunch of really good fighters. I guess you can make a case for Canzoneri but personally i rank Chavez higher. IF you feel those fighters were better well agree to disagree they had better resumes but to say they were better fighters HTH is your opinion.
It was a different time but and more belts around in Chavez day but you cant dispute that he was the best fighter in the 3 that he won belts in. he wasnt some paper champ like you seem to insunate.

 

The argument for Canzoneri is better than that for Chavez and by quite a bit. You say there were more atgs around back in the day but somehow the fighters fo Chavez era were still better? :huh

Well, not always is the best fighter ina division the champ, look at Charles or Jones Jr. And Chavez did not defend championships over 30 times but belts. And there´s a difference.

 

That list is greatness.

 

Chavez did thrive on the alpha era, Canzi didnt get that, so his weight jumping feats should be put into more worth imo.

 

Yeah you're right. At least 30 spots higher.

 

WHat are you talking about? Chavez was the best and the champ at JL,Lw and JW.

Ok i will have to say Canzoneri has a lot of wins over atgs but he also has a lot of losses to guys a prime Chavez would have never have loss to. Yes save the speech about how fighters fought so often and "tougher competition bla bla bla" Bottom line Chavez would have never loss to Andre Routis,split 3 fights with Bud Taylor, losses to Johnny jadick,Sammy Fuller, 1-1 with Al Singer . I am very familiar with all these guys and realize that they were tough guys but Chavez fought some tough guys and never loss in his prime. Some people want to pick apart Chavez early record but bottom line look at Canzoneris at the beginning of his career and those guys werent all that good either.

Watching these 2 fight numerous times, i dont see Canzoneri beating Chavez in a HTH matchup either. Tell me how you think this fight would have played out?

 

Epic list. Having said that I expected it being a bit longer.

 

Duran should not be above Ali. No way.

 

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