Mayweather vs. Castillo I

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  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHa

    pimp c, eze, michiganfaggot, rudyard, nallege and jacory all score it for money may!
     
  2. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl Learn how to score a fight :good
     
  3. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    You're taking sides with bladerunner?

    :lol:


    If it was me who lost a lifetime ban bet you would be harassing me 24/7
     
  5. E Cervantes

    E Cervantes Member Full Member

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    My copy is actually in japanese. I don't understand a word they say.

    And I have Castillo winning.
     
  6. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    i aint taking sides......


    anyways, who lost a bet ???
     
  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    bladerunner made a lifetime ban bet with BigReg that Mayweather wouldn't fight Mosley.


    he's now stated he is not going to honor the bet. like a little *****
     
  8. Davies

    Davies Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Castillio by 1 round i had it,

    Money won the second by 2 rounds.
     
  9. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    does he have until after the 1st to honor his bet, or was the bet that the fight would never get signed....cause a lot of **** can happen from here until the fight
     
  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    It was never stipulated but I'm assuming it's till they are in the ring but either way bladerunner stated he WILL NOT honor the bet.
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    He has until after May 1st. The controversey though lies in the fact that he has repeatedly stated that he has no intention of honoring the bet. We'll see what happens come May 2nd.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Here's an article on the fight. It gives a different perspective on what transpired.

    Mayweather Beats Castillo. Merchant, Lederman and Lampley...


    22 April, 2002 - By Cliff Clark

    Floyd Mayweather Jr
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    . won a clear victory over Jose Luis Castillo Saturday night, but somehow TV commentators Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant and Harold Lederman didn't see it that way. Of course none of these three men has ever boxed, or knows very much about boxing, but that doesn't stop them from being the three most pompous asses ever to ruin a boxing telecast. Not only did they report a different fight than the one that was taking place; they made snide remarks about Mayweather being a "house fighter", being a "gifted" fighter, and otherwise implied blatant favoritism by the three judges. All of the judges correctly saw Mayweather winning by a very solid margin. Their cards were very similar.

    The job of commentators should not be to score the fight, but to comment on it. Jim Lampley especially seemed unsure of just how some rounds should be scored. "Tough round to score" Lampley opined after the 11th round, a round that saw Mayweather rock Castillo back with sharp left hooks, and a variety of counter shots. They all seemed to see the fight differently. Lederman had Castillo winning by a solid margin after the 11th while Merchant had Jose winning by a single point. The only thing they agreed on was that Floyd Mayweather
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    was beaten. "I don't think there is any controversy" Merchant exclaimed. "I think most people believe Castillo won." This asinine comment tells you why three boxing judges often have a fight scored so astoundingly different. They are simply as many incompetent judges as there are inept commentators.

    The person who did the compubox punch stats for the Mayweather-Castillo fight must have been named Castillo. Mayweather out boxed Castillo by a mile in the first round. Floyd clearly out boxed Jose in each of the first five rounds, landing numerous jabs and hooks, and drawing blood from Castillo's nose. By the end of the fight Castillo's cheeks and left eye were puffy, while Mayweather's only mark came from a head butt. Although Castillo did connect with some good solid punches, he landed far less often than Mayweather. Floyd finished the fight without any swelling or marks on his cheeks or eyes. Castillo is a very tough and sturdy lightweight who had a nine-pound weight advantage coming into the ring. Jose also showed a granite chin, but that doesn't land any punches for you. Many of the punches compubox credited Castillo with didn't land effectively. Castillo's punches were largely missing, or landing on Mayweather's gloves, elbows, or shoulders, straying below the belt, or landing after the bell. The name of the game is boxing, and the rounds should go to the boxer who lands the cleaner, harder, punches, and of course they need to be legal punches.

    The sixth round was fairly close but I gave it to Mayweather. I guess if you were looking to give Castillo a round after he lost the first five, you might have given him that round. Castillo won the seventh, eighth and ninth rounds on my card as he tried to swarm over Mayweather with tremendous aggression. Mayweather seemed to be coasting in these rounds, trying to get Castillo to punch himself out a little. After fouling Mayweather about 50 times, and after repeated warnings to Castillo about punching on the break, punching low and punching after the bell, the referee finally took a point from Jose for contemptuously hitting on the break.

    At that point Larry Merchant bitterly complained that the referee was being too "officious." However, that point deduction became a wash when the referee took a point from Mayweather for pushing off with his left forearm, which is something you tend to do when someone continuously runs into you with their head and shoulders. In fact at one point Castillo grabbed Mayweather, got him turned around, and then hit Mayweather a couple of times in the back with the referee just standing there. Even the commentators, except for Merchant, thought that was a very strange thing for the referee to allow.

    Mayweather came back strong to win the 10th and 11th rounds going away. By the finale three rounds he had Castillo broken down a little, and he stood in there and punched with Castillo. Floyd ripped off sharp combinations and many good counter punches in those rounds. There is no way a competent judge would score rounds 10 and 11 for Castillo. The twelfth round was much closer and I gave it to Castillo. My score card read 115-111 for Mayweather, the same as two of the judges. The third judge had the fight 116-111 for Mayweather. They saw the same fight I did, and a different one than the commentators saw. I used to like 15 round title fights, because they separated the fighter's abilities in a way that was easier for mediocre judges and commentators to pick up on.

    I remember the way Harold Lederman scored some rounds in the Hopkins-Trinidad fight, and a few other fights. He's just not very good at it. When one fighter is obviously outclassed and getting hurt, that seems to be the only time Lederman consistently gets it right. I even think that the other Lederman, I think her name is Julie-I don't know if she is his daughter or what-is better than he is. At least she scored the last Holyfield-Ruiz fight better than Harold did.
     
  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    This sounds biased big time. They weren't the only ones that scored it for Castillo. The first one was a close fight, but it was clear Castillo won by landing more punches. I even scored that knockdown for Floyd when they ruled it a slip on Castillo and still wasn't enough for Floyd to win that fight.

    Floyd just fought the wrong type of fight and supposedly was injured. Does anyone know what round he got this injury? I don't think the subject on his injury is brought up anyways because Floyd got the win anyways, but clearly he lost. No way anyone is making me believe he is 40-0 because that's bull****. 39-1 is right. That he got his revenge on Castillo and outclassed him is another thing, but Merchant and the rest of HBO weren't totally wrong on this.
     
  14. cris3000

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    He got the shoulder injury a few days earlier in training.
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Okay thanks. I'd hear different stories that it happened during the fight. Either way I do give Floyd props for that.