A Devastating Loss For Abraham

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  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dirrel beat Froch and now he beat Abraham.

    Cant wait to see him against someone that actually knows how to box-Ward.
     
  2. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It wasn't a devastating loss because the way it ended. If the fight continued, who knows what would of happened, Abraham could of won by KO.
     
  3. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    To the OP's defense, he said Abraham was "rather exposed, albeit in a weird way" and he added that "he's still amazingly talented". He didn't say that all of a sudden Abraham became a shitty fighter.

    I agree in the sense that it's clear Abraham will take a ton of punishment and look amateurish vs a really skilled and fast boxer. That's why he got busted up and that's why he got knocked down for the first time in his career. Because he probably fought the best guy he had ever faced in his career.
     
  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont think its a devastating as all that. I contend that Abraham may have been able to catch and drop Dirrell. But, obviously with a rd plus to go he had his work cut out for him. Dirrell does have some excellent skills, and he looked stronger than he did against Froch. I think Froch looked worse than AA. I thought AA made Dirrell work much harder to evade. Although, he seemed more afraid of Froch for some reason. AA had hurt him, Froch did not.
    If Dirrell can keep improving and maturing, the sky's the limit IMO.
     
  5. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    abraham supposedly had good defense and Froch is criticized for his, but abraham really got beat down compared to Froch. abraham's face was a mess at the end, so much for his defensive ability.
     
  6. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not looking good for aa's future either because there are other fast and skilled boxers at 168 that would chop him up similarly. Ward, Bute, and even Froch would do some damage to him.
     
  7. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Good post.

    Dirrell opened up and attacked a lot more in the Abraham fight than he did vs Froch. That's why AA was busted up, plus he was getting desperate as the fight went on and left himself wide open numerous times.
     
  8. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    I admit that I got it wrong. I'm sure there are plenty of people who claim that they called everything right from the start and maybe even some people who actually DID call everything right from the start. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if you were in the second category, because I've read your posts over the years.
     
  9. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    And that's why it's never wise to foul, because even if you're losing you have a chance. Especially if you have the power that Arthur Abraham does.

    That said, AA has never been the most controlled puncher. He hits hard and has good defensive skills, but he does sometimes swing and that can cost you. His lack of control cost him at least the CHANCE to win, though I think Dirrell was shutting things down and was going on to win on points.
     
  10. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    The thing I like about the Super 6 is the clash of different styles and well, styles make fights.

    I don't think anyone will go through the tournament undefeated.
     
  11. laffie

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    Which Abraham are you talking about? Being active from the beginning. Is ther another Abraham I don't know? The guy does nothing at the beginning of a fight. And that means for at least 4 rounds.
     
  12. kirk

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    Nothing wrong with getting this fight wrong man, we all call em wrong once an awhile :good, you werent alone, the majority were picking AA, and you/they cant be blamed.... And to be honest with you, i honestly do think those were going to be the longest 3 minutes of dirrells life in the next round, and it wouldnt have suprised me one bit had he gotten stopped. I simply think its a bad matchup for AA given his style and who he is as a fighter (which is why i disagree with the exposed factor, because to me he isnt exposed, he just is who hes always been) it just looked extra worse in this fight because of who he was in there with.

    The funny thing is, if they were to have a rematch anytime soon, i would actually be picking AA to win it.... even though i picked Dirrell the first time, it was because of AA's entire gameplan of taking rounds for granted because he can knock people out later... i believe in a rematch he will start earlier and that he will be effective enough to win. If they do see eachother in the finals.... then again, one must be prepared for the changes Dirrell makes, but i think Dirrell pretty much fought to his apex, not so with AA.
     
  13. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I mostly agree with Kirk here, although I do think there was one thing about Abraham that surprised me:

    Note the way Dirrell was able to connect early with shots *around* Abraham's guard. This wasn't the speed issue that only the really fast guys could exploit, but also something a Froch or Pavlik could utilize against Abraham.

    I wonder how Abraham will react to a guy he can't push backward, and someone like Pavlik who will jab and then throw left hooks off the jab. It would force him to start fighting earlier, and his wildness when down on points would leave him open.

    Of course, neither Pavlik nor Froch is a great counterpuncher, so I'd probably favor him slightly in either of those fights.

    But he should hope not to fight Ward or, especially, Chad Dawson, who is the worst possible guy out there for him. That's a ways off, though.

    I'd favor him over Dirrell next time and only clearly make him a 'dog against Ward.
     
  14. MAG1965

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    I don't think the fight hurts Abraham much. He can still win another title and have a good career. If anything, the fight might show a blueprint of how to beat Abraham, but who is going to apply it?
     
  15. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Dirrell wanted to he could pitch a shut out against Abraham. His style is all wrong for Abraham.