Manny and the " Tell Tell Signs " ?

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  1. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Good solid post.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have'nt been paying any attention to the debates here on ESB......


    We've tackled that issue already.

    The issue I have with Pacquiao is that he's gone up these weight classes and not lost speed, quickness, workrate, stamina.......

    .....that has not been the case with Mayweather.
    Mayweather had unbelievable speed and quickness at 130 lbs, and though he's still quick and fast, he's nowhere near what he once was......

    Mayweather's workrate has also taken a steep decline with his weight jumps.

    Mayweather has been relying on more on skill and defense against these bigger guys........he has'nt opened up on the bigger guys the way Pacquiao does.

    While skill has Mayweather winning fights, Pacquiao is still doing it with volume, stamina, and punching power.
    ....all the criteria that increases with PED use.
     
  3. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Pacquiao has gone up weight classes. But has he really gone up in weight?

    Pacquiao - Morales 11/2006
    Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-129 Morales-129
    Fight night weight: Pacquiao-
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    Morales-139

    Pacquiao - Barrera 10/2007
    Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-130 Barrera-130
    Fight night weight: Pacquiao-
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    Barrera-138

    Pacquiao - Marquez 3/2008
    Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-129 Marquez-130
    Fight night weight: Pacquiao-
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    Barrera-141

    Pacquiao - Diaz 6/2008
    Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-134 Diaz-135
    Fight night weight: Pacquiao-
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    Diaz-148

    Pacquiao - De La Hoya 12/2008
    Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-142 De La Hoya-145
    Fight night weight: Pacquiao-
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    De La Hoya-147

    Pacquiao - Hatton 5/2009
    Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-138 Hatton-140
    Fight night weight: Pacquiao-
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    Hatton-152

    So, from the super-featherweight fight with Erik Morales November 2006 to the fights with De La Hoya and Hatton at welterweight and light welterweight 3 years later, Pac's fight night weight has gone from
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  4. dubfire

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    :thumbsup
     
  5. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Not sure whether he is taking steroids but he is on something
     
  6. hmi

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    Facts are not allowed here!

    It should be something like, "I think Pac is onto something but I don't know what it is. He is still fast even at his welterweight fights.". Say anything without looking for any facts and then accuse Pac of using roids.
     
  7. Ringnut

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    Plus because he isn't draining 14+ pounds to make the weight, you would think it would be fairly obvious that his performance would be better as well.
     
  8. houseboy

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    He's taking A-side Meth! It's clear as a day. :D
     
  9. Lupe

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    How do you measure speed, quickness, workrate and stamina from your living room?
     
  10. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You were discussing Viagra in a sauna with another man...? :shock:
     
  11. JLocs

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    which about him usind PED'S:huh
     
  12. JLocs

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    something like that dont pinoys love that SHABUUUU:D
     
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    :lol:
     
  14. Jetmax

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    There are no tell tale signs. They've all been debunked before. The only reason people suspects him is because he refused the extra tests. Those who come up with such tell tale signs are stupid or a troll or both.
     
  15. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Yes.

    What else made him successful in his foray to the higher division?