Manny and the " Tell Tell Signs " ?

Good solid post.

 

You have'nt been paying any attention to the debates here on ESB......


We've tackled that issue already.

The issue I have with Pacquiao is that he's gone up these weight classes and not lost speed, quickness, workrate, stamina.......

.....that has not been the case with Mayweather.
Mayweather had unbelievable speed and quickness at 130 lbs, and though he's still quick and fast, he's nowhere near what he once was......

Mayweather's workrate has also taken a steep decline with his weight jumps.

Mayweather has been relying on more on skill and defense against these bigger guys........he has'nt opened up on the bigger guys the way Pacquiao does.

While skill has Mayweather winning fights, Pacquiao is still doing it with volume, stamina, and punching power.
....all the criteria that increases with PED use.

 

Pacquiao has gone up weight classes. But has he really gone up in weight?

Pacquiao - Morales 11/2006
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-129 Morales-129
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Morales-139

Pacquiao - Barrera 10/2007
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-130 Barrera-130
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Barrera-138

Pacquiao - Marquez 3/2008
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-129 Marquez-130
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Barrera-141

Pacquiao - Diaz 6/2008
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-134 Diaz-135
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Diaz-148

Pacquiao - De La Hoya 12/2008
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-142 De La Hoya-145
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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De La Hoya-147

Pacquiao - Hatton 5/2009
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-138 Hatton-140
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Hatton-152

So, from the super-featherweight fight with Erik Morales November 2006 to the fights with De La Hoya and Hatton at welterweight and light welterweight 3 years later, Pac's fight night weight has gone from

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:thumbsup

 

Not sure whether he is taking steroids but he is on something

 

Facts are not allowed here!

It should be something like, "I think Pac is onto something but I don't know what it is. He is still fast even at his welterweight fights.". Say anything without looking for any facts and then accuse Pac of using roids.

 

Plus because he isn't draining 14+ pounds to make the weight, you would think it would be fairly obvious that his performance would be better as well.

 

He's taking A-side Meth! It's clear as a day.

 

How do you measure speed, quickness, workrate and stamina from your living room?

 

You were discussing Viagra in a sauna with another man...? :shock:

 

which about him usind PED'S:huh

 

something like that dont pinoys love that SHABUUUU

 

There are no tell tale signs. They've all been debunked before. The only reason people suspects him is because he refused the extra tests. Those who come up with such tell tale signs are stupid or a troll or both.

 

Yes.

What else made him successful in his foray to the higher division?