Was there a knockdown in the 11th round? (unrelated to controversial ending)

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This thread is a follow-up for the others regarding borderline knockdowns in Dirrell vs. Abraham and totally unrelated to the ending, the rightful disqualification win for Dirrell for Abraham's illegal punch. Obviously the incident is coming right after this situation, but this is simply to decide whether up to the point Dirrell went down, was it a slip, a borderline knockdown on a slippery surface or a knockdown.

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  2. crimson

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    Slip.
     
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  3. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Slip.
     
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  4. Ringnut

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    most definitely a slip

    I know it's not really his fault but damn, Dirrell sure falls down a lot :yep
     
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  5. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He slipped on the logo in the corner. Arthur landed a grazing punch, but you can clearly see Dirrell's right foot sliding before he got touched.
     
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  6. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It does look like a knockdown from those angles..... Which begs the question, were the **** was the referee???

    If he had came in to seperate them, the down punch wouldnt have happend :patsch

    4 knockdowns, only 1 counted, lost of borderline shots with no warning, seperating fighters while they were "fighting" in the corner :-(

    Somone needs to ban this *******
     
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  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In this case, he was in that slippery corner. Also, the jab definitely landed and gave him an extra push if you watch the slower replay. So there's clearly a punch in a clearly slippery surface what was a problem before. It's borderline for me.
     
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  8. san rafael

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  9. VanillaKilla

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    I dont know how "clearly" you can see somones foot hitting the ground from an almost top down angle.

    Like I said, it does look like a knockdown from those angles

    Does anyone have a gif that shows dirrells footing from a better angle?

    Because it looks from those angles that dirrell was punched AS his foot hit the canvas, which would be counted as a knockdown
     
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  10. Ringnut

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    I'd go with 30% jab, 70% slip, so if the surface wasn't slippery, he would have been hit clean by the jab but I doubt he would have went down
     
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  11. o_money

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    You can see a punch land. Clearly there was a lose of balance but thats Dirrell's fault for moving away at 100 miles a minutes. This is no different then when a fighter gets caught moving back with his feet together. Its still a knockdown --> just not a hard one.
     
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  12. nervousxtian

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    No, it's 100% slip.

    Stop trying to make what Abraham did okay. He hit a guy while he was on his ass, thus DQ'd.

    AA also got his ass beat throughout the fight, was losing handily at the time of the DQ.
     
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  13. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with everything. The question however is if there's definitely a connect that helps the opponent lose balance even further... is the slip or the KD the correct call?
     
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  14. VanillaKilla

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    its impossible to tell from those angles wheter he was taking a step back and got popped, or was already slipping when getting punched, their need to be better angles
     
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  15. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    I agree. I don't even think he is only incompetent. He is completely corrupt, rotten to the core.

    The Marquez fight where he told him illegally that he was ahead on the scorecards, the Malignaggi v Diaz farce, and this fight. I'm sure there are countless others.

    He is a disgrace.
     
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