The Iron Man v Iron MIke

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Jim Jeffries, the indestructible California Grizzly Bear versus Mike Tyson, the explosive Dempsey clone.
    Can Jeffries withstand Tyson's blistering handspeed, and two handed power,as he did all the men he faced in his prime?

    Or ,does Kid Dynamite self destruct after failing to floor the Boilermaker ,and run down like an imitation Rolex as Jeffries gets into top gear?

    Prime for prime 20rds
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  2. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Mike Tyson KO1 because I say so.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I've never seen footage of Jim Jeffries, and frankly don't even know what's available... His style has been described however as utilizing a crouching stance, while holding his left hand at his side, and often jutting the chin forward... He has had his nose broken on three occasions in his career, and has only faced perhaps two men over 200 lbs, one of whom beat him, while another fought him to a draw....... Under the rules of Jeffrie's day, combined with his wrestling and holding techniques, Jim might have hung around for a while, but at the end of the day, I think that his questionable defense and being unaccustomed to facing fighters on Mike's level would be his ultimate downfall.....
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Thats it then, end of thread. :patsch
     
  5. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Rather that than people picking the 'older' fighter just because they're the old timer.
     
  6. Meast

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    If Jeffries lasts the first 4-5 rounds (which is possible, as he had a great chin) then I'd be worried about Mike once he starts to tire and Jeffries pours on the pressure. You'd have to favour Jeffries the longer fight went on.

    Corbett's speed and elusiveness worked well against Jeffries until he got caught and it was all over.

    If Mike manages to work his way in and catch him with some bombs early on, who knows.

    ...although he did beat the heavy hitting Fitz twice (all be it he was a little past his best)
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    How about we give it a little longer?

    Just in case some interest is shown .:lol:
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    If fighters got better and better, the futher back in time we traveled, then James Figg surely would have beaten them all...
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Are you saying you seriously dispute that he would? :rofl
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I most certainly would not......

    Figg would outclass Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes and Muhammad Ali as though they were clumbsy stumbling buffoons with no knowledge of the game.... He would beat Tyson, Liston and Foreman in the stare downs alone... Never mind the pummeling he would give all three ( at the same time. ) Jack Johnson's inside holding abilities wouldn't be of much help, especially as he's lying on the ground grabbing Figg's ankles, like a child begging his father for mercy......


    Never was there a man more menacing, unbeatable or incredibly awesome...



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  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Ridiculous premise.

    Jeffries probably loses to Roy Jones Jr.

    Tyson would obliterate him. And this isn't just being a Tyson fanatic or anything. I've been against him on many occasions. Lately, I feel he beats the opponents he's getting matched against. And in this case, it would be a quick fight.
     
  12. janitor

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    Verry hard to tell given what we know about Jeffries.

    Tyson basicaly has what I call a finishers chance against anybody. However durable the opponent you cannot assume that they would take his punches. Having said that I rate Jeffries durability among the best of all the lineal champions.

    We know that Tyson could be tied up by sombody who pressed him and didn't work well when clinched. That might alow Jeffries to force the fight into the later rounds and drown him.

    I have to think that Jeffries deffece first style of breaking an oponent down gradualy would likley play into Tysons hands if he wasn't verry carefull with his strategy.

    Incidentaly, one guy who I do think would take Tyson is Jack Johnson.
     
  13. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Tyson showed solid stamina against Tillis, Green and especially Ribalta for 10 rounds, and superb stamina across 12 rounds against Smith, Tucker and particularly Ruddock II. Tell me the imaginary point at which he became tired in those fights. When Tyson trained hard and was active he never had stamina problems.

    Nothing against Jeffries, but he'd get stopped early here.
     
  14. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime vs. Prime, I'd lead to Tyson to put enough together to stop Jeffries; fighting in 1900 conditions, a Jeffries win is less improbable -- anyways, I wouldn't exactly be SHOCKED if Jeffries won under late 1980's conditions -- and I'd be more suprised if Tyson won KO1.

    If they came along at the same time -- the time-displaced fighter developing in analogy to how he developed in his own time -- I'd narrowly favor prime Jeffries in Tyson's time, more strongly favor Jeffries in his own time.
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    LOL. What makes you think Jeffries loses to Roy Jones?