Swarmers the most entertaining style

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  1. Ray Mercer

    Ray Mercer Member Full Member

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    Tyson, Tua, Frazier, Qawi. Is the swarming style the most entertaining out there? Does anyone not enjoy watching this style?
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Not worth it when pay to see a fight and the swarmer KOs his opponent in the real early rounds.
     
  3. Ray Mercer

    Ray Mercer Member Full Member

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    I enjoy the knockouts although it can be a bit of a bummer when you've paid 50 dollars. I would much rather watch an early KO than a drawn out decision.
     
  4. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    they're are cool, especially to those who don't care for the science of the sport. but i like technical boxers. hit without being hit. seems like the best strategy to me.
     
  5. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fenech, Cuevas, early Barerra - Fun style!
     
  6. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends on the fan....when you use the terms "most entertaining"....A purest, will always favor a pure boxer over a swarmer....Then you have fans who stricly just like brutality, KO's, etc....They would favor the swarmers...

    It's called boxing, not "Knockouts" nor "swarming"...
     
  7. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kassim Ouma is a great example. Pacquiao in his fight with Clottey did a lot of swarming.
     
  8. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So swarming isn't scientific? The sweet science isn't just about defense.
     
  9. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's unsurprising coming from someone with Paulie Malinaggi as their avatar.

    PS: It's purist.

    PPS: Plenty of great swarmers in history without one punch KO power - Fenech for example.
     
  10. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    swarmers can apply to fighters who don't have big power like Juan Diaz at 135. the guy was pretty fun to watch tho never stopped punching and seemed to never get tired.
     
  11. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Swarmers have an advantage over counter-punchers and defense-minded boxers. Counter-punchers tend to have low volume of punches, and react to what the other boxer is doing. But it's hard to react and counter-punch when someone is throwing so many punches at you. And since a counter-puncher has low volume output, it's hard for them to score more points than the swarmer. Against defense-minded boxers, it keeps them at bay from opening up, and at the same time some of their punches will land and score.
     
  12. blastmaster122

    blastmaster122 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can't simply apply that style to everyone, just as you can't make someone a swarmer, or an outboxer, etc.

    The objective, just like any other sport, is to simply find a way to win and then do so.
     
  13. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    :huh This is a misconception that I'm seeing more and more, and I don't know why.

    Many swarmers have combined terrific defensive skills to go along with their come forward/punches-in-bunches styles. A purist can appreciate that just as much as a pure boxer, because it takes a lot of skill, anticipation, reflexes to avoid punches when coming forward, to get in close, and work in there with proper punch selection/placement/variety.

    In fact, a lot of swarmers haven't had much KO power. Look at Fighting Harada, Jake LaMotta, etc.

    Boxing isn't solely about moving around the ring using a jab and some movement (like the guy in your avatar). That's a singular style - one of many - but it isn't advantageous for those at height disadvantages or reach disadvantages. Watching them do their thing against taller guys or pure boxer types is absolutely BEAUTIFUL when done right.

    There isn't one style that exemplifies boxing at it's finest. Bottom line.

    Who's more of a master of the sweet science? Paulie Malignaggi or Pac? Ivan Calderon or Jung Koo Chang? Chris Byrd or Joe Frazier? Lionel Rose or Ruben Olivares? Chris John or Jeff Fenech?

    See what I'm mean? The madness needs to STOP.
     
  14. ATP

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    Amen
     
  15. phierl

    phierl Active Member Full Member

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    It's an entertaining style, but it's not as pleasing as watching more versatile boxers who can evade and counter, and can adapt to fights in order to tip the balance.

    Wouldn't compare Tyson with Tua. They have similarities, but prime Tyson had better skills better movement - just all round better.