Was Dirrell faking it???

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  1. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No alt account, I dont do that sort of sh*t. 45% on here think dirrell hammed it up..aint just a couple of us. Dont know what you mean about getting owned. Just watch the film again..HE FALLS ON HIS ARM TO BREAK HIS FALL FOR F*CKS SAKE MAN!!! I have never seen a more obvious act job. Sorry if that upsets you I really am.

    i look at that KO and see total bulls*it so do a hell of a lot of other people.
     
  2. Hermit

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    Off to visit the wizard with you there scarecrow . You don't get to vote on reality. Sorry. Just doesn't work that way. But, feel free to cinch up your blinders a little tighter if that is what helps get you through life. All the evidence has been offered. Your's? :patsch Just :patsch

    I just rewatched the ending to make sure of this because this LIE comes up repeatedly. He falls to the floor with both hand to his face. He DOES NOT put it out to break his fall as people keep saying. At don't tell such an obvious lie to make your point. Did you even watch the fight or are you just picking up your observations from other peoples lies? This one is NOT DEBATABLE. I just rewatched it 5 times. Hasn't changed. Here's the clip:
    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=23328&more=1[/url]
     
  3. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He lands on his left arm shoulder..watch it AGAIN with your eyes open. Masses of people think it was an act job you are gonna have to come to terms with this, I know you hate it but I'm afraid for it is true. Now crack on and get yourself another 11k posts you little internet legend.
     
  4. phierl

    phierl Active Member Full Member

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    WTF?!
    What's an arm shoulder :huh
     
  5. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is that really the best you could come up with?
     
  6. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    I'm honestly not sure one way or another but here are some observations nevertheless.

    AA deserved to be DQ'd

    The punch seemed more like a glancing blow than a flush one

    I find it strange that Dirrell put his gloves to his face as he went down. This isn't what happens when someone is knocked out but usually as a result of a headbutt or a thumb in the eye

    Dirrell has previously shown he's not adverse to complaining,acting,playing up, falling down etc which casts SOME doubt on the AA incident even if he WAS genuinely hurt.
     
  7. phierl

    phierl Active Member Full Member

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    Probably not, but I'd really like to know.
     
  8. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you're not capable of being witty so maybe you should stop trying :good
     
  9. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    From Geoff Thompson's "The Art of Protection"

    [url]http://www.fighttimes.com/magazine/magazine.asp?article=471[/url]


    "There are many contributing factors that combine and
    intermingle to form a knock out on an adversary. The
    most important factor is not, as you might imagine, a
    powerful strike, but an accurate one. A powerful
    attack that is not accurate is very unlikely to knock an
    adversary out. Neither is it a matter of being big or
    heavy – size is irrelevant. An 8 stone woman who
    punches her weight will have no trouble knocking a
    much larger adversary unconscious, if she is accurate.
    The next most important factor to accuracy in
    achieving a KO, is deception. The adversary who does
    not expect the punch cannot prepare for the punch,
    therefore the impetus of the punch is maximised. To
    attain a KO you rely heavily on the looseness of the
    adversary’s neck and jaw muscles, if they are not
    braced when you strike the jaw, a huge shaking of
    the adversary’s brain will occur, it is this shaking of
    the brain that will cause unconsciousness.
    If, however,
    the adversary sees the strike coming, he will brace
    himself and thereby minimise the shaking,
    consequently unconsciousness does not occur so
    readily.
     
  10. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch:lol:
     
  11. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Raymond, Wapner's on.
     
  12. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're not doing Andre any favours here, there is now a 700 post huge thread on a popular boxing forum about him sleeping on the job. No smoke without fire :hey

    And no offence to Geoff Thompson because that man really knows his stuff :good You on the other hand do not.
     
  13. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    see this thread for more great stuff -- and not just from the immortal Geoff Thompson -- from others!

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215877[/url]
     
  14. Tully

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    Conrad Im sure your an ok guy, I would even go as far as saying you are probably not a complete c**t. Please just try doing something more productive with your energy. Spending all your time defending Dirrell De Niro is not a productive or healthy hobby.

    An old Yorkshire saying you would do well to remember Conrad: NEVER BOLT YOUR DOOR WITH A BOILED CARROT.
     
  15. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Here you, from a peer reviewed article in the Journal of Sports Medicine by Drs. Paul R. Mcrory and Sameul F. Berkhovic (Neurology). Two of the world experts in concussions.

    find the article here.
    [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez[/url]

    Title: Concussive Convulsions: Incidence in Sport and Treatment Recommendations:

    Summary

    Concussive convulsions (CC) are nonepileptic phenomena which are an im-
    mediate sequelae of concussive brain injury. Although uncommon, occurring with
    an approximate incidence of 1 case per 70 concussions, these episodes are often
    confused with post-traumatic epilepsy which may occur with more severe struc-
    tural brain injury. The pathophysiological mechanism of CC remains speculative,
    but may involve a transient traumatic functional decerebration with loss of cor-
    tical inhibition and release of brainstem activity. The phenomenology of the CC
    is somewhat akin to convulsive syncope, with an initial tonic phase occurring
    within 2 seconds of impact
    , followed by a clonic or myoclonic phase which may
    last several minutes. Lateralising features are common during the convulsions.
    There is no evidence of structural or permanent brain injury on clinical assess-
    ment, neuropsychological testing or neuroimaging studies. Long term outcome
    is universally good with no evidence of long term epilepsy and athletes are usually
    able to return to sport within 2 weeks"

    within 2 seconds. They didn't say instantaneously. They said within 2 seconds.

    I can't wait to see you try and discredit two sports medicine neurologists with publications on concussive convulsions!

    Say uncle, just say uncle! Do it for all of us!