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paddymickey Boxing Addict Full Member

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If Lee Press conference is on Friday why not make it at half time during the Leinster Munster match! Might win a few more supporters that are non fanatics!

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is macklin leaving hatton there sayin it on the brit forum

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is macklin leaving hatton there sayin it on the brit forum
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Link? I cant find the thread

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From Coolock to a golden night in New York

LOCKERROOM: BEING YOUNG. Pushing through those damn doors without knowing whats on the other side. All going down the long slide like free bloody birds, as Philip Larkin says. Being young. Being gifted. Being a Dub.

Tom Hardwick went snowboarding on Saturday. Left the Bronx early. Over the stateline to Jersey and on toward Philly for a day of crack and laughter. Its been a long winter. He owed himself.

Its just a year since he hit New York. Nine months in Sydney wound down, and, instead of heading home to Coolock, Tom decided to give the Big Apple a chance to impress him. He did the Irish thing, old-style, because there is something old-fashioned about Tom Hardwick anyway. He got a place up near Yonkers and went working on the construction.

And sport. He wanted sport back. As a kid he and his best mate, Warren, lived through sport. When the time came Warren went up the Malahide Road to OTooles and Tom went down the road to St Vincents. Warren played some soccer. Tom boxed a little in school. Being young.

Toms football career had slowed when he tore the rotator cuff in his shoulder, and when he was slowly rehabilitating he went back and did a little boxing again, slowly, painstakingly building himself back. In Yonkers one day he wandered through the doors of the YMCA gym in Getty Square with half a mind on just getting really fit again and half on maybe putting on a pair of gloves.

He met a bald black guy the size of a mountain. Jim Howard is 75 but once he was a contender. A New York City Golden Gloves champion back in the day before the day. He was coached by Cus DAmato, a decent heavyweight at a time that meant something.

Tom went down to the Y just to get fit, but Howard saw something and encouraged him. Told him he should compete, a line of advice which came, in a way, straight down from old Cus DAmato. They talked about the Golden Gloves, a magical tournament stretching back 80 years through the stogie-fumed heyday of New York City sports. Jim had won the gorgeous little medal, a pair of solid-gold gloves studded with a single diamond.

Tom had fewer than 10 fights. He was eligible for the novice class in the heavyweight division.

Meanwhile, back home in January, his old friend Warren, not long out of the Army, went, on behalf of a friend, to ask that the music from incessant parties be turned down. They came after him and ran a blade through him and left Warren dead at 24.

Thats Dublin. In New York, Tom broke training for a few days. Hit the drink. Decided then that hed get back to work. Hed fight the Golden Gloves for his friend.

Set the alarm for half-four. Get out the house for quarter-to-five. Go for a run around Woodlawn cemetery. Damon Runyon is buried in there. Runyon would have loved this story. Four miles. Back home at twenty-to-six. Shower and a bowl of porridge. In work for seven. Finish at half-three in Brooklyn. Get back in around four oclock, quarter-past, and be in the gym from five to seven or half-seven.

Sounds bad? Throw in the T-shirt up over his face and head, with just Toms eyes showing as he avoids frostbite. The socks over the gloves in his hands. The days he doesnt go out are the days when the snow is so bad you cant see your hand in front of you.

It takes four bouts to get to a final. Couple of weeks earlier he got a bad cut on his nose sparring. In the run-up he wasnt able to spar. Zachary Bunce, a cop. Big, black, toned dude who looked more like a super heavyweight. The bout was in Bunces gym out in Suffolk. Forty seconds in, he catches Tom with a left hook. Put him down. Tom bounced up like a ball. Took the standing eight. Went back out even more determined. Got caught with a straight right out of nowhere. Legs buckled. Fell against the ropes. Held himself up. Another standing eight. This wasnt the plan.

Went back to the corner after the first round, he wasnt even breathing heavy. Not a sweat broken. He talked to himself. Landed a straight right. Started working the big guys body. The first good punch he landed to Bunces body the cop let out this big long moan. Paydirt. That was February.

A week or so later. Ten days maybe. Hes fuzzy on it. Mount Vernon, not far from Yonkers. A small, heavy-set guy. Kinda stumpy but solid, Tom says. It was the last fight of the night. Weigh-in was at six. Had nothing to eat since three.

Ended up sitting in the changing room till half-eleven. Five-and-a-half hours sitting around. Battles going through his mind. Starving. By the time he went out to fight he had no desire to fight. He was weak and hungry.

He fell into a brawl. Let himself get in close till he copped on to use his longer reach in the third round instead of getting tied up on the inside. Good lesson. He enjoyed figuring it out on his feet. Wheres my advantage? Wheres his? How do we fight to mine.

Gerry Cooney was there. Paulie Malignaggi, who fights Amir Khan in the Garden in a few weeks.

Two more between him and the final. A Dominican. Beat him easily. Noted that night a large, incredibly toned guy being almost dragged by the feet out of the ring in another bout. Looked up and saw the guy who would be his semi-final opponent. Stay out of the way of those haymakers, Tom said to himself.

The Golden Gloves final. Madison Square Garden. Note the Irish out. Many of them wearing the T-shirts that Tom got made up with a picture of his friend Warren on them.

Not long after Warren had died Tom was looking for a way to get his dreams going again. He went down Manhattan to Madison Square Garden. As a kid hed loved Ali, still does, and the Gardens magic still has the scent of the Greatest on it.

He walked around, looking at the names on the walls, breathing in the history. This was the place.

The ring has no room for sentiment though. This is the Garden now. A Thursday night in late March. In the other corner, Earl Newman Jnr out of the fabled Gleasons Gym. Same stable and trainer as John Duddy. Fast feet. Long left jab and good left hook. Just 18-years-old and a couple of inches taller than Tom Hardwick. No sentiment.

Tom tried something. Straight rights without leading with his left. Just no warning. Boom boom. They split the first two rounds.

It came down to fitness and guts and determination in the third. All the mornings around Woodlawn in the cold. All the days put down with his old friend back in Dublin. It was never a fair fight.

So Tom Hardwick, novice Golden Gloves heavyweight champion, went snowboarding on Saturday. Tomorrow night he gets down to training with the New York Gaelic football team. They host Galway in about six weeks.

The phone rings a lot these days. People wanting a piece of him. He knows each time that he wont be picking it up and hearing Warren OConnor on the other end of the line. He knows you live for now and do everything you can do, because nothing is endless. Especially youth.

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I knew warren i used to play football with him with craobh chirain not O'Tooles as it says there and he was a lovely bloke

he actually fought in a white collar event a few months back before he died and his fight was fight of the night

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Great litle story! Im a Vinnies man myself since I was a toddler and my owl fella was Chiarans scum:fire used to love playing them. Only jacked it in about a year and half ago, after minor and then did a year of Intermediate Hurling then hadnt got the time. The stabbing happened up the road in Donaghmede ****in scumbag cowards!!

R.I.P Warren

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TwoFistedPiston said: ↑

Great litle story! Im a Vinnies man myself since I was a toddler and my owl fella was Chiarans scum:fire used to love playing them. Only jacked it in about a year and half ago, after minor and then did a year of Intermediate Hurling then hadnt got the time. The stabbing happened up the road in Donaghmede ****in scumbag cowards!!

R.I.P Warren
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yeah ****s like that need 2b taken in hand... a bullet in the back of the nut is 2 good 4 scum like that:twisted:.. :good

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is duddy - chavez gonna happen:good

fra, Apr 1, 2010

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is macklin leaving hatton there sayin it on the brit forum
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That would be a mistake if true IMO. Macklin is in danger of becoming a boxing nomad with constant changes of trainer and promoter. I agree that everyone needs freshening up but there's also a need for continuity and stability as well.

Of course this could just be rumours, but I'll get by two pence worth in anyway

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paddymickey said: ↑

If Lee Press conference is on Friday why not make it at half time during the Leinster Munster match! Might win a few more supporters that are non fanatics!
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I dont think the presser is until next week

cormac, Apr 2, 2010

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Yes, June 26th in San Antonio, Texas. Duddy will have to knock him out to get a win. San Antonio was where Pernell Whittaker got robbed against Chavez Snr!

Also according to Bob Arum Chavez will be trained by Freddie Roach for the fight.

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Got my copy in HMV today 20 euro would say you would get it a little bit cheaper in Tescos but seen it in HMV and picked it up. Selling it in Xtravision as well if there is 1 beside you.

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Steve Wellings said: ↑

That would be a mistake if true IMO. Macklin is in danger of becoming a boxing nomad with constant changes of trainer and promoter. I agree that everyone needs freshening up but there's also a need for continuity and stability as well.

Of course this could just be rumours, but I'll get by two pence worth in anyway
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When Bob Arum was on newstalk last week he said that he had met Macklin but couldn't do anything with him while he was promoted by the Hattons........

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Are Hatton and Golden Boy promotions linked together so his fights in the US are co promoted by Golden Boy would it not be the same for the Hatton Promotions fighters aswell.

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Are Hatton and Golden Boy promotions linked together so his fights in the US are co promoted by Golden Boy would it not be the same for the Hatton Promotions fighters aswell.
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Pavlik is promoted by Arum though as is the Duddy and Chavez Jr fight.

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Got my copy in HMV today 20 euro would say you would get it a little bit cheaper in Tescos but seen it in HMV and picked it up. Selling it in Xtravision as well if there is 1 beside you.
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Is there ay extras on the DVD?

fightinirish, Apr 2, 2010

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its up on the EBU site that Patrick Hyland is down to fight Esham Pickering for te EU title purse bids are to be in by the 22nd april if it goes ahead it be a good one for stadium

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