Interesting facts about tonights Fact RJJ vs BHOP

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  1. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since 2005 both fighters have the same record 5 wins 3 losses

    Roy does have 2 KO in his 5 wins while BHOP has none.

    Interesting at the weight in ..boxing promoter Oscar wasn't in sight ,this was the last fighter who is now retire that BHOP KO 2004

    Both fighters loss to Calzaghe and both fights Drop the UK fighter in the 1st round ..Bhop however fight pan out to be a split decision while Roys fight was unanimous.

    Birthdate BHOP 1-15-1965 45
    RJJ 1-16-1969 41


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    Not that these facts mean anything but its nice to know alittle about each fighter ,before they fight instead of bogus articles and make believe tales.

    I might buy this fight ..a fight like this could make or break one of these fighters ..its do or die tonight ...Im slightly leaning towards Roy for this one...I didn't like the way Bhop look at the scale his mid section looked drain chewing gum a bad sign of dehydation....the later rounds are going to wins this fight by decision because I don't think either fighter packs a KO punch anymore.

    (the undercard looks to be decent)


    RJJ by Spit Decision.
     
  2. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Despite the overwhelming criticism this fight has recieved, the historical significance this fight holds can NOT be ignored. If you truly are a boxing fan, you'll be intrigued by this fight and the result of it.
     
  3. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess that Roy's 5 wins are of a complete diffrent nature of Hopkins wins - I mean you can't compare that Prince Ajamu win even for the NABO LHWT title with Hopkins victory against Tarver ( who beat Jones twice) or against Pavlik. Then, we all know that despite the fact that both Hopkins and Jones dropped Calzaghe in the first stanza of their bouts, the way they lost to Calzaghe was of a complete different nature... Then you can't really compare the losses to be honest, Hopkins losses to Taylor or to Calzaghe are not of the kind of Jones loss to Green even if the that fight was stopped pramaturely. Obviously Jones can steal the fight because he has the style that matches in his favour against Hopkins' style but the rest is not been well pointed ot.
     
  4. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good point.
     
  5. milkman11

    milkman11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. At first, I was a little critical of the fight, but now I think it will be great in the historical significance. :bbb
     
  6. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Over the years 2 fighters had called out BHOP Glen Johnson ,Chad Dawson..There's really not a comparison factor here. Boxers who throws a lot of punches Benard has trouble with. I think Bhop hopes Roy lay on the ropes most of the night and steal rounds ...we may see a different Roy tonight who knows.
    One fact to point out when BHOP fought Tarver ..we all know Tarver had to loss 40 pounds to make weight for that fight. Thats what loss that fight for A.T. who wanted a rematch and it was never granted.
    Tonight is going to be a strange night.
     
  7. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Yes, as a boxing fan, of course I'm intrigued. I am not, however, intrigued enough to purchase the fight. I look at it this way...there is no historical significance to this fight. We're talking about two guys WAY past their primes, here. What if Ali and Frazier had fought again in 1980. Would anybody have cared? Would anybody have expected much? Would the fight have gotten a lot of support? No, no, and no.

    Despite featuring to old counter-punchers, this fight does have the potential to turn out to be an interesting technical battle, but I doubt if it'll even come to that. A boring technical battle, yes, an compelling technical battle...probably not. These two guys brawling is out of the question.

    I had initially picked Hopkins by easy UD or KO, but now I'm going with Jones by SD, because he looks quite a bit more confident - and in shape - than Hopkins. He'd better not get over-zealous, though, or he WILL get KO'd.
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great thread the facts are interesting another fact is they both were trained by conditioning coach Mickey Shilstone who is still in Bhops corner and is giving him tips. Jones will throw a lot of punches that gives Bhop trouble like the Taylor fights. Jones can do it. Bhop does not have one punch power and the Green fight was a weight up. Jones can win but it will not be easy.
     
  9. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is a SPIT desicion? lol
     
  10. JET

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    Taylor was aggressive behind a consistent jab that kept B-Hop on his heels. This isn't Roy's style and I don't expect to see it from a diminished 41yr old Roy tonight. Roy has been a pot-shotting counterpuncher for over a decade now and has been employing a failed imitation of the rope-a-dope for almost 7 years. The only way Roy wins this is if Hopkins gets DQ'd.:deal
     
  11. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Good read..
    To their credit both atheletes look to be in tremendous shape, Here is to both of them having their best night.

    That said, I have to go with my head & pick B-Hop.
    (I don't see either scoring a K.O.)
     
  12. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What I see over there is clearly a stand for Roy Jones Jr's case with an attack on Nard's win over Antonio. Maybe fair but I can't see how it is fair... I was mentioning something about the thread message - the comparision made by you - and I said those things about losses and victories... Maybe U wanna make things look like they're on even terms? Well, they are not and in my reasoning, if they were, Roy wouldn't fight Bernard anyway, forget about Dawson and Johnson ( actually Bernard beat the hell out of Johnson when he was unbeaten and young).

    Now, as far as the fight may go, look at how Jones has fought recently - it has nothing to do with opponents... Tarver, Johnson, Prince Badi Ajamu, T Henshaw, Lacy, you name it... Jones' legs go and he has to find that rest on the ropes and in the corners... Maybe Hopkins wants him to go there since it was fatal against Green and almost against Calzaghe... Not that Hopkins "steals rounds" going after someone b'cause we know he steals rounds on the back move and countering... Well, all in all, Jones may fight the way he did against Tito and step in with his lead left hooks in spite of stepping back with his own punches... But then maybe not, Tito was away for so long and he was clearly out of shape to perform well...
     
  13. Scar

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    Good thread, thanks for sharing.
     
  14. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    What the **** is the historical significance? No title on the line and one is old as ****, and the other is shot as ****. The outcome means nothing to me at this point of their careers.

    I don't see how the fact that they're both name fighters elevates this sham of a fight any higher? Pit Ali and Frazier in the ring right now and you're telling me that just because they were once great fighters that a showdown right now would actually carry some weight??? :nut Because that's basically what you're saying here.
     
  15. war4years

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    Kelly Pavlik throws lots of punches, often 80+ per round. Hopkins didn't have much trouble with him.