Best strategy for a boxer vs a mma fighter?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Bogotazo, Apr 3, 2010.


  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Whether in a ring or in the streets, a boxer and an mma fighter are going to have different approaches, tendencies, styles, strengths and weaknesses when engaging in combat. MMA is the more varied style against strike-focused boxers, but the spreading out often allows for opportunities that skilled boxers dream of.

    Within the nature of the sports themselves, distance, rhythm, defense and offense differ greatly. A mixed martial artist has various tools to deal with striking, either matching it or eliminating it by taking the fight to the ground. How would a boxer best deal with the approach of an MMA fighter? How would they control distance? What combination of head-movement, footwork, and countering would be most effective in defending and attacking a well-rounded MMA fighter? It's a bit easier to sort this out in the legal sports world- would the dynamics of this strategy change at all on the street?

    It is always best if a fighter is knowingly encountering an MMA fighter to understand the fundamentals of the non-boxing elements, but if you answer I'd appreciate a boxing-focused approach.
     
  2. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    in street it is just explode, first in best dressed. MMA ground game and locks and **** doesn't work in street fighting, you get in first and be sober that helps a great deal.
     
  3. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, that whole ground fighting thing doesn't work in real life...

    What the **** do Navy S.E.A.L.S., the F.B.I., State Police, Special Forces know? Those ******s and learning that ground fighting...
     
  4. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    look man. you don't won't to be on the ground ever in a fight. A street fight is not a controlled in environment, anything can happen. when standing your vision is a lot better and your movement to run, see other people you won't in the fight AKA the person friends your fighting, who ever or what ever bop up, if your on ground your very exposed.

    simple rule get in first and make it very quick.
     
  5. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Strategy is to try and be wary of a takedown, but also be wary of getting grabbed.. Fact is, a boxer vs. an MMA fighter is at a huge disadvantage everywhere except close punching range.

    Someone with some very minor Judo or Greco skills will **** a boxers world up as soon as they grab hold, as they can just drop you on your head without them ever being on the ground. Lots of freestyle wresting background guys will be just as dangerous standing in the clinch..

    Fight doesn't even need to go to the ground.. Then, a boxer has to worry about kickboxing styles that incorporate the thai plum. Get kicked in the knee, then you try to close the distance only for the opponent to easily overpower you with his grip, smash ribs to soften you, then smash face on the knees.

    Boxers, in a street fight really need to strike first, strike hard and finish quickly. This, isn't boxing as we know it today. Today's boxing is all about controlling the distance and powering from outside *Klit* Pot shotting, outscoring, shoulder roll and being slick *Mayweather*.
     
  6. tri-pod

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    :lol:

    Thank god we have the fighting master on here to tell us all whats up.
     
  7. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    anyone who thinks you can just take someone down in a street fight, work for a submission and voila is delusional. take someone down and try to choke them, meanwhile realize that your balls, eyes, throat etc etc are wide open and if you don't lock that choke in stat, well..........
     
  8. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many street fights you know, or have seen, or have even heard of, where someone gets their eyes gouged out? Their adams apple crushed?

    Yeah, strikes to the groin can happen, but it's actually kinda rare...

    The entire reason that BJJ was developed was to give people the greatest means to control a fight without causing damage if necessary.

    It's shockingly easy to apply a submission hold on someone who knows little or nothing about grappling. So, it's not like you'll be playing BJJ if you get into a scuffle. It's usually 5-20 seconds before even a novice grappler (nevermind an expert) to apply a submission hold/choke.
     
  9. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay, you've got a boxers mentality. That's fine, and perfectly reasonable.

    However, from a martial artists mentality, the number one thing you want to do, is avoid any physical confrontation by any means possible.

    However, if it is unavoidable, the proven best way to handle a confrontation situation is with grappling. It gives the grappler the greatest degree of control possible.

    As for the guys "friends," well, despite what you see in Kung Fu movies, even Fedor would be in some trouble against 3 or more guys...2 is workable but extremely difficult.
     
  10. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree totally. you are on the ground aplying a rear naked choke, and there friend comes a boots your head off your shoulders.

    Point 2 if you try a submision on people they can give up and then attack you when you let them off, unless you break joints or render unconcious.

    But its good to know what to do on the ground. Fights generaly start with wild flayling and then two people rolling around on the ground.
     
  11. tri-pod

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    No but you could slam them for one thing. Another thing is how many street fights have you seen where people actually do all that crazy ****?

    After all, the US Marines wouldn't have their own martial arts program they teach to every Marine plus advance classes for Marines who want to progress farther if it was all useless in a street fight/life or death combat scenario.
     
  12. Jimbob

    Jimbob Active Member Full Member

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    I've seen loads of fights were people have had a nose or ear bitten off, or had their eye's gouged to the point of bleeding.

    I've seen a 6ft 14 stone jiu jitsu champion get badly hurt and have the **** kicked out him in a street fight by a skinny 17 year old kid who was using such tactics. For all his size and skill he was simply overwhelmed by ferocious aggression.

    Kicking, punching and bites to the groin are a very common tactic in fights for some people. What you need to remember is that some people are just mental when it comes to fighting.

    Biting is the most dangerous weapon you have in a fight.
     
  13. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am at a loss for words...I have no words.:roll:
     
  14. Kevin_Wright

    Kevin_Wright King of Awesomeland Full Member

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    I haven't been in enough real fights to tell you :nut

    Seems like all the ones I have been in have been more like, fist fights. I would say. Settling **** like "men."

    As opposed to all out, balls to the wall Im going to rip your head off. Becuase I am so pissed off about something you did. Type of ****.
     
  15. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    I could take out four UFC chapions once. Just drive my car into them as they walk down the street.

    Hurting people is very easy for anyone. Any fightings is very dangerious.

    Anyone who starts a street fight is either a dumass or drunk out their brain.