Joe Calzaghe vs Andre Dirrell WHO WINS??

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  1. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    i think right now calzaghe would get a UD out of it, but dirrell really lacks the experience to beat a guy like calzaghe. if they met prime for prime, it would be a great fight, but i would probably have to take dirrell.
     
  2. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you actually saying black americans by default have those attributes?

    You're ****ing stupid man. :-(
     
  3. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    No they are trained in this way. If Mikkel Kessler got an American trainer he'd be an elite fighter. Now he's nothing more then B B+.
     
  4. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    I see lots of ''if's and buts'' but no scientific facts like I produced.

    Froch beat up on Dirrell, Dirrell got smashed by AA who was half blinded due to an illegal headbutt, not to mention the low blows.

    Calzaghe chased all of the best SMW's into retirements, into hiding, or in someone like Toneys case, into the HW's!

    Duran is not from a country with the history of Britain, don't forget, Britain holds that 1 and 0 war resume over America, and Americans are always bitter because of our superior looks, intellect and scientific minds that have produced everything from lightbulbs through to human cloning! It would be like Canada saying britney Spears is a rival to Celine Dion for heavens sakes.
     
  5. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe can cut of Dirrells exits in the ring, but not for most the fight, Dirrell has better reflexes, his speed is about the same as Joes if not better, and has a better reach.

    Calzaghe's footwork wont come into play coz Dirrell will be running away like he usually does.
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe KO win.
    Dirrell was beaten by Froch (closely), Calzaghe would cut the ring off and outwork Dirrell on the inside. Calzaghes hand speed in his prime (Im talking before Lacy) was faster than Dirrells, Calzaghe punched harder and had a better chin.
    I think a prime Calzaghe would stop Dirrell in the middle to late rounds
     
  7. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    how the **** can you beat someone up without hitting them or hurting/damaging them in any way? all i saw in that fight was dirrell knocking the hell out of froch with power punches and froch finding absolutely NOTHING but air. obviously the view is pretty bad from froch's nutsack.
     
  8. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Calzaghes chin and workrate is much higher, I'd also dispute the reflexes as RJJ handspeed hasn't really changed, and an old version of Joe danced around some of his punches.

    If Froch can beat Dirrell, and some of Dirrells other shakey performances, then Calzaghe easily beats Dirrell, people have short memories:patsch
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    The United States is a global super power. Britain is a former super power that is almost wholly subservient to the new one. Whats it like to live in a country whos best days were 100 years ago?
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

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    A prime calzaghe that could only win an SD against Robin Reid stops Andre Dirrell? :rofl REally?

    Calzaghe got better after Lacy. He was not that good before given his performances.
     
  11. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Dirrels face was all marked up, Dirrell got within 3 feets of Froch and his legs turned to jelly and he collapsed, he was petrified, Froch was interviewed not even out of breath and said he could have fought another 30 rounds like that, Dirrell was gasping for air.

    Froch beat up a track and field artist that night, and was never once in any danger or hurt, Dirrell lived on fear that night.

    We saw what happened when AA caught him, dropped him twice, once with a jab, then a short arm punched clip to his head put early on set alzheimers into Dirrell.
     
  12. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Yet everything still stems from Britain, the best writers, acting talent, muscians, poets, scientists, the biggest breakthrough technically of the last 20yrs is the web, and that is British.

    Plus it isn't like the USA have an empire, so they aren't the traditional superpower, if anything Britain is the last of the great superpowers, and the greatest as proven by having the largest most productive empire ever, one which was never beaten, but self terminated.


    Back to boxing, you tout Reid, a former world champion around as if the win was a negative, beating a former world champion in his prime with one hand for 90% of the fight is astonishing.
     
  13. hallelujahholla

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    Cokezaghe's only impressive win was over Hopkins...and it was a boring slapfest...Kessler proved not to be a great fighter...in order to be a great fighter you have to beat a great fighter...his best victory was over a 43 year old hopkins, barely...and he got dropped in the first round.
     
  14. MrMagic

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    It doesnt work that way buddy, how about Joe Calzaghe, Nino Benvenuti, Loi and nowadays the Klitschko brothers?

    They all lack speed and defense? No, all with the exception of Wladimir went along without an american trainer.
     
  15. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe has the better workrate no doubt, but Dirrell's ***** mentality of running away and keeping a distance, not getting into brawls is something Calzaghe would have had difficulties with, so his workrate wouldnt trouble someone who is always just out of reach.

    Look at when Calzaghe has be KD in his career (Salem, BHop, Mitchell) it has always been because he has opened up on an offensive slap attack coming forward, Dirrell would catch him more often than you think.

    Also Calzaghe didnt have that head movement to avoid punches, his best defense was his flurries that would have had his opponents confused, but for him to do that he needed to reach his opponent, close enough to stand square and tap/slap the sides of his opponents head.