Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating?

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  1. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxrec have him at 20, just below Hatton.
     
  2. harvinmagler

    harvinmagler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think so, considering what he has achieved in just 24 fights
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Heavyweights always get a raw deal in the P4P lists.
     
  4. Mazallan

    Mazallan ESB yes man Full Member

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    No. No way near worthy of a p4p ranking. He is an holder of a verion of a world title but has not beaten the best two guys in his division.
     
  5. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    He should be top 10. He was unified at cruiser and a legit champ at HW. The second cruiser to have done it so it clearly isn't easy to do.
     
  6. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    As an Englishman, I find the Haye hype a bit embarrassing.
     
  7. robpalmer135

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    he is 100% in the top 20, along with the brothers.
     
  8. Danny-boy

    Danny-boy Active Member Full Member

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    him and wlad should be in there instead of hopkins and cotto
     
  9. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bull**** he's the definition of p4p going up in weight. They are two giants smashing up old little people
     
  10. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    Hopkins should be removed from that list, he fought Pavlik in 2008, hasnt done a thing worthy of mention since then.

    I think it's a bit early to be talking about putting Haye in there too. Valuev and Ruiz aren't that hot now are they.
     
  11. Hooch

    Hooch Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree, how many ex cruiserweight win a heavyweight title?? Its not like moving up in the lighter weight classes where the difference is a few pounds.
    He was also undisputed champ at cruiser and has won his titles on the road, which counts for alot imo.

    I'd put him in my top 10.
     
  12. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Except that you can, because you cant rate huge HW's like the K's. So much of their success is down to size, someone like Haye has been at CW, and shown that as a smaller man he can still walk the walk at HW.
     
  13. Larryboys

    Larryboys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's no way he should be in ahead of Wladimir Klitschko, who I think has a good claim to a top 10 spot now. Seriously, you can knock the heavyweight division but alot of others are weak too and he keeps manhandling ring rated top 10 guys. If Nonito Donaires done enough to be the 5th best fighter on planet Earth (lol at that one) I don't see how Wlad hasn't. Although the inclusion of either does say something about this era when it comes to quality of talent.
     
  14. cjgloves

    cjgloves Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, unified cruiser then went up to heavy and has won a world title too. That too me is what pound4pound means.

    P4P he is in the top 10.

    IMO that list is poor.
     
  15. bluenoseshf

    bluenoseshf Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, he should along with Wlad. The ring list is a joke, Cotto, Hopkins and mosley shouldnt be in that list.