The future of boxing in USA

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  1. nahkis

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    The US is in no danger of going out of the map. More kids in the gyms than anywhere else, traditions, more money there than anywhere else...

    But i can also predict that the Russians havent even got started yet in pro boxing. Very soon they will be all over the place, and Ukraine, Poland, Uzbekistan, Armenia etc will continue producing good fighters too. But that doesnt mean the Americans are screwed.
     
  2. boxexpert

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    not screwed (yet), but its getting close
     
  3. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give it up. Your agenda is a little obvious. Wishful thinking on your part though.

    Other countries, mainly Russia, are making inroads in the amateur ranks. And that's a good thing. Boxing needs periodical influxes of new talent. But big difference in the amateurs and pros and there's a long way to go to even approach the level of dominance of the US, let alone surpass it.
     
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    however, the americans have lost their dominance in this sport a long time ago and theres no sign that they will regain it. in fact,its getting even worse...
     
  5. boxexpert

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    that pic is symbolic for that thread
     
  6. Robney

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    A rabbitpunch? I don't get it :huh
     
  7. Robney

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    But the HW scene in the USA is almost down the drain... The brothers made sure of that. Maybe Arreola can bring a little bit of their old glory back if he is able to beat Adamek.
    And let's face it... Heavyweight is the Kings Class in boxing, and that's where most casual fans look at.
     
  8. David UK

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    Hardly compares with Leonard,Hearns,Hagler,Jones,DeLaHoya,Tyson, Holyfield does it?:yep

    The main problem as I see it is that the amateur programme in the USA is a shambles. One bronze medal in the last Olympics is an ABYSMAL return for a once great boxing nation. The much smaller Gt Britain returned thee medals including one gold medal
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

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    Ward, Dirrell, Alexander and Bradley seem destined for greatness. If Ward keeps winning he'll be a cash cow sooner or later with that gold medal of his and his demeanor.

    Chad Dawson is the most talented of the lot, but there is noone on his level from 168-175.

    Only 2 of the names you listed above won gold at the olympics. Tyson didnt even make it.

    Amatuer boxing is dead, it means nothing, its a completely different sport now. Britain won 3 medals at the olympics yet only has 3 titlests, neither undisputed, and America has 10 plus 6 fighters in the top 10 pound 4 pound.

    Do something in the pros before we start talking about whos time in boxing is done.
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    From 130-175 America has more belt holders then any other nation. 6 of the top 10 pound for pound our American.

    The only real division you could claim is dominated by Euro's is heavyweight. Even then besides the Klitsckos, Haye, Chagaev, Valuev, Povetkin are on about the same level as Arreola, Chambers, and Thompson.
     
  11. Robney

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    I have to agree on this... I guess in the future a lot of pro's have no or only a short amateur career, and I also think a lot of them will come over from other fightsports like kickboxing or something.
     
  12. Auracle21

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    for a boxing expert u sure seem not to know much
     
  13. boxexpert

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    well, thats nonsense. amteur boxing is coming even closer to pro-boxing meantime:
    3x3min, no more RSC,etc.

    for the next olympics and world championships its getting even worse for the US: i dont see any fighter which will achieve anything. besides that,the russians will sent a whole load of worldclass boxers to the games.

    my pic just shows the current situation world boxing: USA weak, UK and europe strong

    PS: arreola will lose to adamek
     
  14. David UK

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    Jones and Holyfield were outrageously robbed so that makes four probable gold medals, and the US selectors who thought Henry Tillman was a better bet than Tyson must have been smoking crack!!

    The fact remains that nearly all top pros were top amateurs.Hatton,Haye and Calzaghe were all world class amateurs even though none of them went to the Olympics. They turned pro earlier instead. There are very few that weren't
     
  15. boxexpert

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    absolutely agree.

    theres no pro career without a solid amateur background.

    sure, there are very few exceptions. consider it as a apprenticeship:

    as an amateur,you learn your craft; all the tools and how to use them in various situations. also learning from mistakes, hope not doing them as a pro again.

    i understand that many US fighters turn pro right away because they have to make money. its a hard way to go and hardly anyone makes it.

    exactly fighters like that will be used as sparring partners for upcoming,promising talents (normally former amateur stars)