Pac's 30 day cut-off was reasonable ( proof inside)

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Hate to break it to you, but that article was from 6 years ago and only covers one type of PED. The head of the USADA is on record as saying, a few months ago, that a 30 window is too long.
     
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    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    84 days?!

    They were jumping through hoops a few months back after they finally caught someone using HGH with random blood testing, now we're supposed to believe that they've had a test that was capable of tracing HGH in the blood 84 days after you stop taking it all along but they've just been unbelievably unlucky in not catching anyone in the past 6 years?


    U.K. Anti-Doping chief executive Andy Parkinson said it was a landmark case.
    "It is the world-first analytical positive for HGH, a substance that has previously gone undetected because it leaves the system fairly quickly after administration," Parkinson said.
    Parkinson said this case, like the tests for the banned blood-boosting hormone EPO, sends out a message that scientists are catching up with cheats.
    "There has been a feeling that you can take growth hormone with impunity, but this shows this is no longer the case," Parkinson said. "Now there is a test, so our message to athletes is to think twice about using it."

    [url]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4938135[/url]
     
  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    2004
     
  4. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    These *******s will cling on to anything like **** to a blanket if they think it makes Pac look in the right.
     
  5. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If that's the case..and Mayweather wanted to clean up the sport...Then why bother with the 30 day window anyways? If people can cheat these tests then there going to cheat em anyways? Right?
    So, why did Mayweather look like a fool, and bother bringing this **** up?! He didn't suggest it with Gatti, Baldomir, Judah, DLH, or Marquez. So, why bother with Pac? Btw: If it was weight gain...He really didn't gain that much weight over 5 years..He's just not dehydrated as hell now! Plus, even weight lifting the average per year for muscle growth is around 7 pounds! So, 7 pounds per year of SOLID Muscle. Meaning in 5 years if that was the case I could easily gain 35 pounds of solid muscle.
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    It covers one type of PED but I think that was the only PED where doubts were still lingering, although anyways most information seems to indicate that HGH use for a period of less than 24 days before a fight would not provide tangible benefits to an athlete's performance.
     
  7. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Yep, 2004. It's been known this long. Sorry if you meant to say 2004 makes these claims outdated, when in fact testing procedures may have been improved while HGH is still... HGH.
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol:
    This article reflect what they had in 2004. It' been shown by the USADA that a 30 day cut off isn't good enough.

    Unless you want to believe that 84 days is okay. :lol:

    On top of that, we have no clue the type of testing NSAC would use and what they would test for.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about,Mayweather rejected the 30 day window.

    Using that logic they might as well eliminate all drug testing.

    Because he and his people believe that Pacquiao is on something. If you believe your potential opponent is on something, and you have the ability to request stringent drug testing then why not do it?

    No one mentioned anything about weight gain. Mayweather has actually downplayed Pac's weight gain. Please stop trying to interject one of your pre-prepared arguments where it doesn't apply.
     
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    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    I'm sure the USADA is more credible than your **** to the blanket talk. Bring something worth reading to the table. At least Nallege is a smart hater.
     
  11. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who gives a rat's ass? Take the tests and fight!
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    actually its the WADA which establishes international drug testing procedures
     
  13. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Show an updated USADA article to back up your claims. It's probably out there. We'll all be waiting.
     
  14. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Tygart said the 30-day window would still allow an athlete plenty of time to dope with illegal substances not detectable by urine testing.

    :deal

    [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/24/sports/24boxing.html[/url]
     
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    Tygart said, however, that Pacquiao's request to be tested only 30 days and beyond was "unacceptable to any effective anti-doping program," adding, "with a [30-day] window like that, you could dope to the gills and get away with it."

    [url]http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/23/floyd-mayweathers-adviser-wonders-what-manny-pacquiao-has-to-hi/[/url]