Pac's 30 day cut-off was reasonable ( proof inside)

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    That's a false statement. Pacquiao accepted to be randomly urine tested up till the day of the fight and immediately after the fight. It was only for the blood testing that he requested a cut-off date.
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    What that 30 days is not good enough?
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    it doesn't state why according to Tygart a 30 day cut-off date for blood testing with continuing urine testing is not good enough.

    why is the most important part. "You could dope to the gills and get away with it." is not specific enough.
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Did the part about drugs not detected by urine fly over your head?
     
  5. PH|LLA

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    No, its vague.

    On one hand he says that some drugs are not detected in urine (we know that, but Pac is willing to submit to blood tests up to the cutoff date).

    On the other hand he says that a 30 day cut-off date for drug testing would not be good enough (we know that, but Pac is wiling to undergo drug testing until the day of the fight.)

    He should be more specific. For example: "HGH could be used from day 24 to day 10 to enhance Pacquiao's performance while being undetectable by blood tests after the fight and by random urine tests during the period of use." That kind of statement would make me say "Well in that case, if Floyd thinks Pac is using, then its normal that he would refuse the 24 day cutoff date."
     
  6. jasbar

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    So why did USADA waited 2 months before conducting any tests? The fight was signed 2 months ago. Thats 2 months of possible PED use.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    The whole PBF-Shane drug testing thing is first and foremost a publicity stunt.
     
  8. gyll

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    The thing is they could have agreed to 30 days. They could have agreed to no testing at all. What people need to focus on is the issue of achieving high confidence. If you live in a bad neighborhood wouldn't you want the best alarm system available? How ironic that Team Pac would charge Floyd $10 million per lb over the weight limit. This is to ensure or give them high confidence that Floyd would not cheat. Random testing w/o a window is the best way to catch a user. Sure, you can say Pac has never failed a drug test. Neither has Floyd, and he's still willing to get tested himself, isn't he?

    Man up. This is Boxing, not grade school. You're required to do a little extra than the average person. Taking 3-7 random blood tests isn't even considered unreasonable by any means. Hell, Vic Ortiz quitting in a fight against Maidana is less shameful than telling me that as a pro boxer you can't randomly give out a few tablespoons of blood.
     
  9. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree.
     
  10. Zerwas1

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    Dick Pound must have been the kids favourite name in primary school
     
  11. jessy

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    this shows the level of education of flhomos and haters LOL
     
  12. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course the 30 days was reasonable. So was the 24 days, or the fact that Pacquiao even agreed to the blood testing which he didn't have to do. Floyd was obviously scared out of him mind for not a excepting that. Lets remember Pac would have done unlimited **** testing as well. Floyd still didn't feel secure though, so we know who was the one running.
     
  13. jessy

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    these flhomos are hiding there eyes behind floyd's balls. they are so afraid to accept that flocaine is scared of pac. and they are flaming the TS for cut off date. pac agreed lesser than 30 days. now i see flhomos saying otherwise.
    :lol:
     
  14. eze

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    Boxers would gain relatively nothing from using substance so far out from the fight.

    They benefit the most by using it during their heaviest time of training and closer to the fight.


    Example.

    If Marquez trained in the mountains 3 months before a fight. Then the last two months trained at sea level. What would be the point? He would lose the EPO effect that training at high altitudes does.
     
  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Pac originally agreed to blood test up until the day of the fight.