tommyv tua weighed 17 and a half stone when he fought lewis when you consider hes only 5 10 in height it shows how out of shape he was you cant seriously claim the tillis fight as proof of tysons failings he was still raw and inexperienced and still only 19 if they fought even 6 months later tyson wins inside 2 rounds watch the biggs fight he was far more of an ali clone than tillis as for saying if tyson never got lewis out inside 4 rounds lewis could take over tyson at his peak under rooney never had stamina problems no disrespect to lewis who i rate as one of the top 10 heavyweights of all time i just dont see young tyson having any problems with him could you imagine that tyson having a life and death struggle with a 35 year old ray mercer like lewis did i cant
I'm 28yrs old & i remember the aura that came with an imminent Tyson fight.......i remember being in school when the shocker that was Tyson-McNeeley was on & ppl just wouldnt shut up about it cause tyson had been in jail for 4yrs lol I think for mikes golden years (86-89) he brought something special to the ring, people couldnt help but watch his success unfold, & love him or hate him, he brought in the big numbers cash-wise and did a lot for general public intrest in the sport........i still cant get over his pheonominal head movement (for a heavyweight)! in his early years, watching him slip a jab was magical! I believe mike's latter career would have been something truly special had he not self-destructed
It's always worth downloading one or two fights from his peak which are floating around nowadays (mint quality vhs rips) :thumbsup.
Tyson is an absolute great! Not really debateable among most serious posters. I do think he tends to be overrated by a large portion of his fan base, especially H2H. I have him just outside of my top 10 ATG's, and he probably falls in there H2H as well! Ali, Holmes, Louis out box him Foreman, Liston, overpower him Marciano, Frazier, Dempsey out work and out tough him Lewis and Holyfield prove puzzles to tough to solve. I know this means I bash and don't respect him or his prime (were talkin' a prime Tyson here!)...IMO I disagree, Tyson was great, I just happen to believe there were greater!
Sure Tyson was good, but the vibe Im getting from you is he was unbeatable. I love watching old Mike Vids, but we need to be realist and acknowledge Modern training techniques and conditioning are in his favour and make him look unreal compared to the ol' Timers Tyson knockout videos on youtube + his doco = Boxing Historian :huh:huh
...plus those sensational KOs on his way up were vs. some serious bums. The thing is he still had some sensational KOs when he stepped up the level of competition though. He is an all-time great (9th or 10th IMO), but not the greatest.