I agree with you, Lefthook. I don't know where this crap about me supposedly being a Haye fan boy came from. i thought it was ******ed on the part of PP, a ******, to come out with "Haye thinks he's Jones and Mayweather". If he thought he was Mayweather, he'd have retired after knocking out Macca, justifying the decision by saying, "I have nothing left to prove", and then come back after 2 years and challenge Jean Pascal at Heavyweight.
He's a David Haye detractor, that's all. Haye usually brings the left hook behind his right hand, it's not a great one, but he does throw it.
No you're crying like a ***** because I criticised your boyfriend. I don't spend endless hours jacking off over Haye knocking over cans with uppercuts like you do. Its blatantly obvious in his last few fights where he fights someone who can punch back he cant throw the same shot Haye does try to copy the Hamed/Jones/Eubank style, all that hands down radar defense is what he saw growing up and he trys to emulate that but doesnt do it too well, he trys to fight with the half guard and doesnt do that too well either. Its obvious hes a poor mans version of this style
Its pretty blatant in your first post on this thread nutthugging the ATG performance against Valuev and your ***** fit over any criticism
My opinion on Haye is that he has great lateral movement and footspeed but all that leaping around means he tires faster and his handspeed does seem to drop off a lot after the early rounds. His chin isnt great either He has good heavyweight power but nothing extraordinary, I think both Klits will murder him, hes way open to a right hand from someone fast with good reach
No he isn't. He said David Haye didn't throw left hooks or uppercuts, and he was proven wrong with video evidence. Non disputable and he conceded. He then went on to suggest I am a David Haye fan boy when I've had no history of even making a thread about the man. I was just annoyed by him coming out with boyish and nonsensical bull **** like, "he thinks he's Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather". Haye is the first one to admit his shortcomings in the media. The final point was that I supposedly made out his performance against Valuev not only to be a great one but an "ATG performance". I have never said anything of the like, and never even suggested it was a great performance. I personally can't fathom anyone with a pulse finding reasons to score more rounds for Valuev, and I think Haye hurting his hand, which has been proven with video evidence once more, played a factor in his subtle showing. What's the problem here, Bodhi?
:|:|:| Haye wankfest ruined :|:|:| You're right about him admitting his faults, he calls himself the hayemaker because he cant throw a straight punch :yep
I think I'd probably fallen asleep by then, but again thats a long hook from what I remember not a short 1, Valuev was open to the left hook all night and Haye ran, ran and ran some more. He should refund everyone who paid for that, he should have been invetigated by the trading standards for describing it as a fight
The problem is you acting as if Haye beeing anything special when he isn´t. He looks better than he is due to the dull looking hw division. But that´s it.
There are many many positives to David Haye and like he did in the first round against Ruiz he can show flashes of absolute brilliance. However he can also be frustrating to watch; he has a brilliant jab but doesnt double it up or throw it regularly enough and although he is a brilliant body puncher (see mormeck) he seemed to ignore it all night. He also seemed a little slower to me than he has been before and it is vital that he keeps this advantage and stays below 220. I think that stand up boxers with little head movement are made for him persosnally, it's guys who cramp his punching room and bully him that are his weakness IMO. If he fights Wlad next I give him a v good chance of a KO and hopefully by then Vitali will have slipped further.
I'm not acting like David Haye is anything special. :huh Let's look at the comments I've made regarding Haye in this thread. This needs to be cleared up. I don't think this indicates anything other than I believe Haye to be the most charismatic and exciting fighter in the Heavyweight decision. Any reasonable person will tell you that if you hurt your hand to the point of it becoming swollen early on in the fight, that will probably effect your punch output. Other than this statement, I've not said anywhere else that I thought the performance was great. Certainly not an "ATG performance". As evidenced by the existance of both Ross Purrity and Corrie Sanders, it does not require a special fighter to dethrone Wladimir Klitschko. Less than special fighters also have the ability to threw these shots. I think Amir Khan has both shots among his offensive arsenal, and he's not yet proved to be anything but a talented kid. Bernard Hopkins is not only horrendously past his prime, but far to small to hope to be competitive with David Haye. This does not make Haye special, only bigger and fresher. I don't have a particularly high opinion on any of these fighters. None of them have looked like world beaters. I think it's conceivable that Haye could defeat all of them. Again, no indication that I have a hard on for Haye. It seems to me that people just generally hate David Haye getting the credit he deserves. I don't believe he can beat Vitali Klitschko, but at the same time, I'm not going to condemn him to mediocrity when he's already been proven to be a relative success as a Heavyweight.